@Very-Rusty saidNot really, he's promising it to every adult regardless of whether they vote Republican or not with the payment contingent on an overall Republican victory in Congress.
@no1marauder,
I know you were making a joke, but isn't that illegal bribing Voters with money???
Wouldn't the tax payers actually be the ones paying???
This sounds way out there even for the Trumpster.
-VR
So it's technically not a direct "vote for Republicans and the government will pay you $5,000" scheme.
And, of course, tax payers would have to pay it or he'd have to find an extra $1 trillion or so in the Fed's couch cushions.
@Very-Rusty saidIt's not just Trump; the entire Republican Party has mutated into its own most-grotesque nemesis, utterly unrecognizable as the party of Richard Nixon or even Ronald Reagan. Reagan would never have sucked up to Putin or No. Korea, and Republicans are not calling Trump out for it.
@moonbus,
I concur with all the aforementioned.
I am going to add that Trump could be the worst President in the History of American Politics.
-VR
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@Mott-The-Hoople saidI guess you never get tired of making a fool of yourself by claiming someone is lying when the contrary can be easily proven by a quick web search:
so now you are at the just make something up stage?
"When asked where the money would come from, Lutnick cited the Trump Platinum Card — which is not launched yet — that would require immigration applicants to join a waitlist and allows for future applicants to live in the U.S. for 270 days per year without being subject to tax on non-U.S. income.
Applicants would have to pay a $15,000 processing fee, undergo Department of Homeland Security vetting and pay an additional $5 million contribution to the U.S. government to be guaranteed citizenship.
“We have a waitlist of more than 100,000 people who want to come,” Lutnick said. “That’s $500 billion dollars.”
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/6085042-trump-dividend-not-taxpayer-funded/
Trump proposed this in March 2025. Total revenue raised from the program thus far? $0.
@no1marauder said@no1marauder,
Not really, he's promising it to every adult regardless of whether they vote Republican or not with the payment contingent on an overall Republican victory in Congress.
So it's technically not a direct "vote for Republicans and the government will pay you $5,000" scheme.
And, of course, tax payers would have to pay it or he'd have to find an extra $1 trillion or so in the Fed's couch cushions.
This is only if the Republicans wins, sounds quite shady to me.
1 Trillion would go in nicely to reduce the 40 trillion owed. 😉
-VR
@moonbus said@moonbus,
It's not just Trump; the entire Republican Party has mutated into its own most-grotesque nemesis, utterly unrecognizable as the party of Richard Nixon or even Ronald Reagan. Reagan would never have sucked up to Putin or No. Korea, and Republicans are not calling Trump out for it.
Perhaps Republicans are looking at it like give him enough rope and he will hang his own self so to speak.
-VR
@no1marauder saidSelling citizenship and buying votes are two reasons why government should not be run like a business and businesses should not be run like a government.
Yeah, one of Trump's cronies was saying we're going to come up with $500 billion by charging folks $5 million a pop to become citizens.
Ha ha.
The 18th c. separated church and state. It was hard work. People said it couldn't be done. People died for it. France needed five republics to get the details right.
The 21st c. must accomplish a similarly difficult and dangerous task: separation of money from politics. People will say it can't be done. People will say it's utopian. People will die for it. It may require multiple revolutions to get the details right.
@no1marauder saidIt's a crime to pay people to register to vote; paying them to vote at all (either party) is no less criminal.
Not really, he's promising it to every adult regardless of whether they vote Republican or not with the payment contingent on an overall Republican victory in Congress.
So it's technically not a direct "vote for Republicans and the government will pay you $5,000" scheme.
And, of course, tax payers would have to pay it or he'd have to find an extra $1 trillion or so in the Fed's couch cushions.
I call your attention to item II
https://www.justice.gov/usao-nh/file/818061/dl
@moonbus saidTrump's plan doesn't pay any individual to do anything. It merely promises a financial reward to every adult IF a certain result is obtained. One needn't vote Republican or even vote at all to receive the benefit.
It's a crime to pay people to register to vote; paying them to vote at all (either party) is no less criminal.
I call your attention to item II
https://www.justice.gov/usao-nh/file/818061/dl
@no1marauder saidIf you are going to post propaganda at least get the names correct…
I guess you never get tired of making a fool of yourself by claiming someone is lying when the contrary can be easily proven by a quick web search:
"When asked where the money would come from, Lutnick cited the Trump Platinum Card — which is not launched yet — that would require immigration applicants to join a waitlist and allows for future applicants to live in the U ...[text shortened]... funded/
Trump proposed this in March 2025. Total revenue raised from the program thus far? $0.
Gold card
And no, you are treating scenarios as fact
@Mott-The-Hoople saidTell Commerce Secretary Lutnick, he called it the "Platinum Card" in this interview: at about :35.
If you are going to post propaganda at least get the names correct…
Gold card
And no, you are treating scenarios as fact
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@no1marauder saidYou take as fact people speaking off the cuff.
Tell Commerce Secretary Lutnick, he called it the "Platinum Card" in this interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ghFtIw3Pzk at about :35.
Wait till it becomes law THEN state you case.
Such as penalizing people for not buying a product from a private company
You have your panties in a wad over nothing
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@Mott-The-Hoople saidWe both know it will never become law.
You take as fact people speaking off the cuff.
Wait till it becomes law THEN state you case.
Such as penalizing people for not buying a product from a private company
You have your panties in a wad over nothing
But why does Trump and his administration keep saying it will? For gullible saps like you?
Mott: No tax money involved.
Sucker.
@no1marauder saidshow me where one cent of tax money has been spent on this.
We both know it will never become law.
But why does Trump and his administration keep saying it will? For gullible saps like you?
Mott: No tax money involved.
Sucker.
you are complaining about something that hasnt happen.
dems are just mad he took a page out of their playbook...
@no1marauder saidWe both know it is not going to happen. It's grandstanding.
Trump's plan doesn't pay any individual to do anything. It merely promises a financial reward to every adult IF a certain result is obtained. One needn't vote Republican or even vote at all to receive the benefit.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidLMFAO! You really are getting desperate.
show me where one cent of tax money has been spent on this.
you are complaining about something that hasnt happen.
dems are just mad he took a page out of their playbook...
Of course nothing has been spent on a promise that Trump made on a conditional future. The point is the promise could never be kept without taxpayer funds and everyone, even a gullible dullard like you, knows this. But that won't stop administration clowns from dishonestly saying it could.