@sh76 saidIt certainly is a "valid comparison" as to which is "worse" which is what we were discussing.
While I agree with your underlying idea, that's not a valid comparison.
In the pre-vax era, almost everyone was exposed to chicken pox as children. Thus, they were immune by the time they reached vulnerable ages. Chicken pox grants strong, lifelong immunity (I know, shingles, but that's a different disease).
If everyone were exposed to COVID as children and that granted lifelong immunity, death rates from COVID would also be incomparably lower.
@eladar saidYeah, and lots of people don't wear seat belts and survive.
I never get flu shots. My kids never get flu shots. Somehow we survive and rarely get sick.
The last time I got the full blown flu was in college. That round was rough. I had to break down and buy a box of theraflu.
Doesn't make it smart.
@ponderable saidthats twice…do you understand how to spell “prove”?
No your thesis has been:
There are more infection in vaccinated than in unvaccinated countries. Proove that.
@sh76 saidI wear a seat belt.
Yeah, and lots of people don't wear seat belts and survive.
Doesn't make it smart.
You have already admitted that healthy young people do not need to get vaccinated. It would only be to avoid the inconvenience of getting sick for a few days.
Good to see that you support the idea that vaccines for young healthy people are not a medical necessity.
@eladar saidHe did?
I wear a seat belt.
You have already admitted that healthy young people do not need to get vaccinated. It would only be to avoid the inconvenience of getting sick for a few days.
Good to see that you support the idea that vaccines for young healthy people are not a medical necessity.
@no1marauder saidYes he did. He said we did a disservice to children by shutting down schools and preventing them from acquiring immunity naturally.
He did?
@eladar saidI'll leave it to him to verify that.
Yes he did. He said we did a disservice to children by shutting down schools and preventing them from acquiring immunity naturally.
There's the parents of 337 dead kids who wouldn't agree with that. At this stage, we have no idea how long natural immunity to COVID lasts, deliberately planning to get your kids infected with a potentially deadly disease is irrational child endangerment.
@no1marauder saidYou can go back and read the posts in this thread and you can read it yourself.
I'll leave it to him to verify that.
There's the parents of 337 dead kids who wouldn't agree with that. At this stage, we have no idea how long natural immunity to COVID lasts, deliberately planning to get your kids infected with a potentially deadly disease is irrational child endangerment.
A small number of kids die. That is life. They die in bath tubs, 5 gallon buckets, walking down the street, driving around town, as well as for medical reasons. That is life.
@eladar saidFact: Measles, smallpox, polio ravaged mankind for >1000 years (yes, this number is larger than 3), killing untold millions. They're mostly gone now, thanks to vaccines.
49 people died of covid in the us yesterday.
Fact
Viruses typically have a 3 year cycle, with the 3rd year having the least amount of deaths.
Fact once you get sick you have a better chance of having immunity than if you get vaccinated.
@eladar saidIronically, perhaps, when seatbelts were first introduced and then, upon further study, required for operating a passenger vehicle, the exact same arguments were thrown about.
I wear a seat belt.
You have already admitted that healthy young people do not need to get vaccinated. It would only be to avoid the inconvenience of getting sick for a few days.
Good to see that you support the idea that vaccines for young healthy people are not a medical necessity.
Don't tell me how to save my own life! I'd rather end up a vegetable.
@wildgrass saidPeople should be free from the nanny state micromanaging their lives.
Ironically, perhaps, when seatbelts were first introduced and then, upon further study, required for operating a passenger vehicle, the exact same arguments were thrown about.
Don't tell me how to save my own life! I'd rather end up a vegetable.
In Oklahoma people can still drive their motorcycles without a helmet.
@wildgrass saidLOL…what do these two have in common? other than the govt forcing something on the public?
Ironically, perhaps, when seatbelts were first introduced and then, upon further study, required for operating a passenger vehicle, the exact same arguments were thrown about.
Don't tell me how to save my own life! I'd rather end up a vegetable.
@wildgrass saidFun fact, if covid was not novel and the elderly had gotten covid as a youngster, this virus would be seen exactly the same as any other flu like virus.
Fact: Measles, smallpox, polio ravaged mankind for >1000 years (yes, this number is larger than 3), killing untold millions. They're mostly gone now, thanks to vaccines.
@mott-the-hoople saidDo you know how to spell ignorant hump in German?
thats twice…do you understand how to spell “prove”?
@wildgrass saidTrue, but what about the harmful polio vaccine that was made on the way? Bringing up the safety of vaccines should never be censored. Not all vaccines are safe.
Fact: Measles, smallpox, polio ravaged mankind for >1000 years (yes, this number is larger than 3), killing untold millions. They're mostly gone now, thanks to vaccines.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10472327/