@no1marauder saidThat is why you need to be sure, to conclude whether or not it is proper to rule out these people were murdered by third parties. That is what investigations are for.
Like you "know for sure" that all these people were murdered by third parties?
@metal-brain saidI think the most likely explanation is that Putin murdered them. Not a conspiracy theory at all.
That is why you need to be sure, to conclude whether or not it is proper to rule out these people were murdered by third parties. That is what investigations are for.
@wildgrass saidThe facts in the Avayev case make it extremely unlikely it was anything but a murder-suicide. His wife, who he suspected of having an affair with his driver, his youngest daughter and himself were all killed by his gun, which was in his dead hand. His apartment was locked from the inside and on the 14th floor; others in the building heard gunshots and screams but no one saw any assassins.
I think the most likely explanation is that Putin murdered them. Not a conspiracy theory at all.
The case in Spain is a bit more suspicious; the wife and daughter were hacked to death but there was no blood on Protosenya's hanging body. This Spanish link does report that the mansion which was the scene of the crime had security cameras which the Spanish police are studying to see if anyone but the three deceased entered the building. https://www.elpuntavui.cat/punt-divers/article/4-divers/2129131-la-matanca-de-lloret-crim-domestic-o-mafios.html
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@metal-brain saidQ: What about the American oligarchs? Do you hate them too? A: Let's just say I won't be weeping if misfortune befalls them.
What about the American oligarchs? Do you hate them too?
Should we wish for their deaths?
Did you even read the article I posted. It wasn't just the oligarchs. Their wives and children were killed too. Did they deserve death? Just how deep is your apathy?
Q: Should we wish for their deaths? A: I don't care what we "wish" for. I do care that these very rich people use various means to purchase political influence to rig tax laws, anti-trust laws, and punishments i.e., minimum security (country club) prisons in their favor, while the working class operates under a different set of rules.
@mchill saidYou have just described government.
Q: What about the American oligarchs? Do you hate them too? A: Let's just say I won't be weeping if misfortune befalls them.
Q: Should we wish for their deaths? A: I don't care what we "wish" for. I do care that these very rich people use various means to purchase political influence to rig tax laws, anti-trust laws, and punishments i.e., minimum security (country club) prisons in their favor, while the working class operates under a different set of rules.
That is how this plutocracy works in the USA, yet you don't speak out against the oligarchs that run our government from behind the scenes. You only despise oligarchs that are Russian.
You don't seem to realize our oligarchs own the corporate news media and are feeding you anti Russian propaganda in a quest for world domination and you are just a slave paying for it. Biden says 33 billion more for Ukraine, mostly weapons.
How do you benefit from all of this? Are you smart enough to realize you will gain nothing from WW3 and you could suffer because of it? Remember the Vietnam war? It was really expensive so a lot of it was paid for with hyperinflation. Are you willing to suffer through hyperinflation to pay for WW3?
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@no1marauder saidSergey Protosenya's son Fedor has claimed his father, who had been deputy chairman of major Russian gas firm Novotek, 'could never harm' his wife and daughter and suggested all three members of his family were murdered.
The facts in the Avayev case make it extremely unlikely it was anything but a murder-suicide. His wife, who he suspected of having an affair with his driver, his youngest daughter and himself were all killed by his gun, which was in his dead hand. His apartment was locked from the inside and on the 14th floor; others in the building heard gunshots and screams but no one s ...[text shortened]... elpuntavui.cat/punt-divers/article/4-divers/2129131-la-matanca-de-lloret-crim-domestic-o-mafios.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10754207/Russian-accused-killing-wife-daughter-hanging-Spain-MURDERED-son-says.html
Mr Protosenya did not leave a suicide note and no fingerprints were found on the weapons – an axe and a knife - used to kill. There were no bloodstains on his body.
Spanish police have refused to release the findings of post mortem examinations of the three bodies that were carried out over the weekend, citing 'police investigation secrecy'.