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275,000 illegals removed from receiving Social Security checks

275,000 illegals removed from receiving Social Security checks

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@KellyJay said
Setting up the system so it cannot validate its work is a system that people can plunder; you want to keep going on and on, do it with someone else.
Again you contradict yourself.

Maybe you're thinking about the type of fraud where the military "leaves" a pile of cash in the desert for someone to pick up later? Certainly that'd be untraceable.

But here, if you read the report, we have a transaction that has a paper trail. A social security number. An address. An employer. A bank. There are many ways to track these transactions.

I don't know the specifics about California, but law enforcement in general has to gauge whether there is value in going after fraudsters. If there's enough money, I'm sure they would try to recoup.


@wildgrass said
Again you contradict yourself.

Maybe you're thinking about the type of fraud where the military "leaves" a pile of cash in the desert for someone to pick up later? Certainly that'd be untraceable.

But here, if you read the report, we have a transaction that has a paper trail. A social security number. An address. An employer. A bank. There are many ways to track these ...[text shortened]... here is value in going after fraudsters. If there's enough money, I'm sure they would try to recoup.
Odd that undocumented people have a paper trail.

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@KellyJay said
Odd that undocumented people have a paper trail.
No it's not odd. Not at all.


@wildgrass said
No it's not odd. Not at all.
Then you are a walking, talking contradiction.


@KellyJay said
Then you are a walking, talking contradiction.
Where is the contradictory statement?

Yet you wrote... "You can have someone create accounts for Bob or Jose, send them checks, and collect the money themselves or direct it wherever they want."

In what world is that not a paper trail?


@wildgrass said
Where is the contradictory statement?

Yet you wrote... "You can have someone create accounts for Bob or Jose, send them checks, and collect the money themselves or direct it wherever they want."

In what world is that not a paper trail?
Made-up names, prove it with no history.

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@KellyJay said
Made-up names, prove it with no history.
Oh names now? Written on.... paper?

You post also includes addresses, banks, and bank transfers

Gasp.


@wildgrass said
Oh names now? Written on.... paper?

You post also includes addresses, banks, and bank transfers

Gasp.
You cannot have undocumented people with documents, a contradiction.


@wildgrass said
Oh names now? Written on.... paper?

You post also includes addresses, banks, and bank transfers

Gasp.
They are paid in cash, I’ve seen it many times and saves $ for everyone involved. They use it or send part back to Mexico, No paper trail.


@KellyJay said
You cannot have undocumented people with documents, a contradiction.
Oh you're a literalist?

You don't know what undocumented means?


@mike69 said
They are paid in cash, I’ve seen it many times and saves $ for everyone involved. They use it or send part back to Mexico, No paper trail.
How do they receive social security payments without cashung a check?

Cash is payment for work. That's not what kellyjay is talking about. Stolen social security numbers, bank accounts, addresses checks, transfers to the Caymans.


@wildgrass said
How do they receive social security payments without cashung a check?

Cash is payment for work. That's not what kellyjay is talking about. Stolen social security numbers, bank accounts, addresses checks, transfers to the Caymans.
Well it’s not legally that’s for sure when describing illegal people. Maybe California or another sanctuary state does?


@mike69 said
Well it’s not legally that’s for sure when describing illegal people. Maybe California or another sanctuary state does?
They don't. That is the point. They contribute 25x more to social security compared to the group of fraudsters who draw from it.


@wildgrasswithno ss card?


How do they pay in being illegal with no documents of any kind and employers are breaking the law to hire them.