@shavixmir said“related” = someone died because of drugs or alcohol, not necessarily the user.
Alcohol = done it yourself.
Drugs = done it yourself.
Guns = 40% done by someone else.
Hence the difference in approach.
@mott-the-hoople saidYeah. You’re right. Guns aren’t killing enough people. 😠
73,000 drug related deaths and 70,000 alcohol related. what point are you making?
Moron !!
@mott-the-hoople saidYeah... lots of people dying by watching someone drink a beer.
“related” = someone died because of drugs or alcohol, not necessarily the user.
@shavixmir saidreally weak response. vehicle fatalities ring a bell?
Yeah... lots of people dying by watching someone drink a beer.
@mott-the-hoople saidAh, so you're saying we should prevent alcohol from getting into the hands of irresponsible drivers?
really weak response. vehicle fatalities ring a bell?
@mott-the-hoople saidIs there a compelling reason for guns to be proliferated into society as an epidemic ?
I asked what was the point he was making...maybe you can explain the point.
My point is far more people die because of drugs and/or alcohol but never a peep out of you liberals...whats up with that?
Try to come up with something better than the 2nd amendment.
You know, ideally we try to solve all of our problems instead of setting them against each other.
@kazetnagorra saidFine.
73,000? That's nothing compared to the Holocaust.
So let's stop trying to fix any problem.
Lets tackle the problem of deaths by illegal alien criminals. Fair enough?
I was right. It's 40,000 deaths.
A steady rise in suicides involving firearms has pushed the rate of gun deaths in the US to its highest rate in more than 20 years, with almost 40,000 people killed in shootings in 2017, according to new figures from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/13/us-gun-deaths-levels-cdc-2017
@kazetnagorra saidI haven't seen a single major problem being tackled by addressing the cause. That includes everything from shootings, to terrorism, to cancer, and to poverty.
1. Fortunately it is possible to tackle more than one problem at a time.
2. Who doesn't want to "tackle the true cause"? How many people have you heard saying: "yeah no, we shouldn't tackle the cause, let's focus on the symptoms."
@mghrn55 saidAsk the Swiss......where every male of military age is required to keep their army issue firearm and ammo at home.
Is there a compelling reason for guns to be proliferated into society as an epidemic ?
Try to come up with something better than the 2nd amendment.
You know, ideally we try to solve all of our problems instead of setting them against each other.
They don't have a problem with gun violence, but then......there's a reason for that, isn't there?
@dood111 saidNope
Ask the Swiss......where every male of military age is required to keep their army issue firearm and ammo at home.
They don't have a problem with gun violence, but then......there's a reason for that, isn't there?
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/soldiers-can-keep-guns-at-home-but-not-ammo/970614
@mott-the-hoople saidThat’s car related deaths.
really weak response. vehicle fatalities ring a bell?
@earl-of-trumps saidThe OP is 4000 deaths so far in 2020.
I was right. It's 40,000 deaths.
A steady rise in suicides involving firearms has pushed the rate of gun deaths in the US to its highest rate in more than 20 years, with almost 40,000 people killed in shootings in 2017, according to new figures from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/13/us-gun-deaths-levels-cdc-2017
@earl-of-trumps saidDamn, that's a nice comeback aimed at those who say "illegal alien criminals" should not be addressed in any way, which is... nobody.
Fine.
Lets tackle the problem of deaths by illegal alien criminals. Fair enough?