Originally posted by SMSBear716I have question about this "Blame America First Crowd":
You forgot Whoppi Goldberg, Robin Williams and Oliver Stone.
But they are all liberals, so what do you think they are going to say about issues. Some are blatant hypocrites too, George Clooney for example. He is against American troops in Iraq, but he advocated sending American troops to Dafur ... where there are obviously strong and vital US interest ...[text shortened]... I'm sure some would like to do it in actuality ..... and then they';d call it compassion
Some people are more inclined to "blame America" because thay are citizens capable of steering the country in the right direction. In a sense, I have an obligation to try and make America the best it can be. I would be more interested in blaming China if I was allowed to vote in their elections.
How do you distinguish between the "blame America first crowd" and the "resonsibe citizen crowd"?
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterFinally, I'm more interested in these "social darwinists who control banking and the media." Social Darwinism?? One-World government?? Downfall of the US?? why isn't this reported in the media??
...Hollywood dupes desperately searching for meaning?
I notice that quite a number of Hollywood types proudly wear the moniker "activist" after their name. For instance: Barbara Streisand, Robert Redford, Alec Baldwin, Martin Sheen, George Clooney, Susan Surandan, Mrs. Surandan (Tim Robbins), Leonardo DiCaprio and Jeff Spicolli are all well-kn ...[text shortened]... want to usher in a one-world government by bringing about the downfall of the United States?
...wait....
They control that too!!!
Originally posted by bjohnson407Reading between the lines, I think insurance companies are a powerful tool of the SD.
Finally, I'm more interested in these "social darwinists who control banking and the media." Social Darwinism?? One-World government?? Downfall of the US?? why isn't this reported in the media??
...wait....
They control that too!!!
Originally posted by Bosse de NageJohn D. Rockefeller was a prominent SD. Many of America's captains of industry during the Gilded Age were also into SDism. It wouldn't surprise me if Ted Turner was too, only I fear they didn't let him into their club and he went insane. Thus his interview last week on the Charlie Rose Show where he said all the survivors were going to resort to cannibalism in the aftermath of global warming.
Dupes, clearly. Now tell me more about these sinister SDs (don't think I didn't catch the subtle Nazi connotation!). Can you name any names?
Originally posted by uzlessI don't know what made them all go crazy. Perhaps it's the unreality of not having a fixed identity in a land of make believe?
Please explain the path of logic that cycles from Susan S. protesting the Iraq invasion, to the downfall of the United States due to an All-world government taking over after secret media and banking officials dupe us all into protesting.
Originally posted by zeeblebotI guess this was my point: How authentic can their "activism" be when they have agents, attorneys, handlers, reps, etc., agonizing over which "cause" will score them the most points with the public? Let's face it, in the crazy world of Hollywood, saving the planet is a whole lot more glamorous than donating your time and money to a shelter for teenage single mothers.
well, as long as nothing REALLY happens, they don't have to worry about what they say, just reap in the points for saying it.
Originally posted by duecerIn the case of Heston (the greatest actor of all time!) and the Governator (the Missing Link between acting and claymation!), their activism was more than just a temper tantrum. As you know, Heston marched for Civil Rights in the '60s. But after the Democratic Party decided to become anti-American at the '68 Convention, he decided to do something about it. The emergence of Ronald Reagan, the architect of the downfall of the Soviet Union had a strong effect on Heston, and he decided to do his part by acted the role of president of the National Rifle Association. The same is true with Arnold. After coming to this country as an immigrant, he worked hard at his bodybuilding and slurred his lines in several films and was rewarded with the greatest gift any immigrant could ever receive: He married a Kennedy! But repulsed by his wife and in-law's Democratic ideals, Arnold, a Republican, ran and won the race for Governor of California. And to this day, he is trying to make a difference in one of our nation's worst run states (second highest taxes in the nation).
by activist, do you mean someone like...oh I don't know...Charlton Heston, or The Governator?
The post that was quoted here has been removedSee -- you and I are not as far apart as you might think: I like David Cronenberg films too. However, whenever I debate you, I picture myself in the role of James Woods in "Videodrome," burning Deborah Harry's tit with cigarette. Long live the new flesh!
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterWow. For a conservative, you sure engage in a lot of liberal historical revisionism! Democrats
In the case of Heston (the greatest actor of all time!) and the Governator (the Missing Link between acting and claymation!), their activism was more than just a temper tantrum. As you know, Heston marched for Civil Rights in the '60s. But after the Democratic Party decided to become anti-American at the '68 Convention, he decided to do somethin ...[text shortened]... e a difference in one of our nation's worst run states (second highest taxes in the nation).
being anti-American? Reagan the 'architect' of the fall of Communism?
And what kind of Republican are you? The people of California live there and have voted to have
their strict laws and high taxes, variously approved by referendum and affirmed by the will of
the people. When polled, the vast majority of Californians are happy with their bizarre situation.
Why should the Governor try to alter that? The people have spoken, and loudly in favor of their
situation.
Nemesio
Originally posted by NemesioYou're right, the people of California are speaking: They're voting with their feet!
Wow. For a conservative, you sure engage in a lot of liberal historical revisionism! Democrats
being anti-American? Reagan the 'architect' of the fall of Communism?
And what kind of Republican are you? The people of California live there and have voted to have
their strict laws and high taxes, variously approved by referendum and affirmed by the wil ...[text shortened]... ry to alter that? The people have spoken, and loudly in favor of their
situation.
Nemesio
* The latest Census Bureau data indicate that in 2005, 239,416 more Californians left the state than moved in; this was also the case in 2003 and 2004.
* The native-born outmigration flows have become so systematic that the cost to rent a U-Haul to move from Los Angeles to Boise, Idaho is $2090 -- or some six times more that the cost of moving in the opposite direction.
http://www.alec.org/fileadmin/newPDF/ALEC_Competitiveness_Index.pdf
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Originally posted by der schwarze RitterYou should really know better than to post statistics to bolster your bogus claims. However,
You're right, the people of California are speaking: They're voting with their feet!
* The latest Census Bureau data indicate that in 2005, 239,416 more Californians left the state than moved in; this was also the case in 2003 and 2004.
* The native-born outmigration flows have become so systematic that the cost to rent a U-Haul to mo ...[text shortened]... the opposite direction.
http://www.alec.org/fileadmin/newPDF/ALEC_Competitiveness_Index.pdf
using your standards, if I can find just one person moving to California, I've disproven your claim.
But using normal people's standards, we find that your statement is, of course, completely false.
Here are some graphs that should illustrate, without words, the BS entailed in your claim (again):
http://www.npg.org/states/ca.htm
http://www.censusscope.org/us/s6/chart_popl.html
http://www.ppic.org/content/pubs/jtf/JTF_PopulationJTF.pdf
http://www.lao.ca.gov/1995/010195_calguide/cgep2.html
http://www.lao.ca.gov/2000/calfacts/2000_calfacts_demographics.html
And so on, and so on.
Of course, when you probably meant was the number of white people in California, because
growth of other races don't count.
Nemesio
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterAnyway, if this were true (which it's not), is it the Governor's responsibility to change the laws
You're right, the people of California are speaking: They're voting with their feet!
that the people who remain have overwhelmingly approved?
If you say 'yes,' then you're not a Republican; you're a socialist.
Nemesio
Originally posted by mtthwThe fact he is willing to send American troops there is the same... now isn't it. What if troops in Dafur got wounded/killed by a IED there.... what exactly would be the difference to them.
There's nothing hypocritical about it once you realise that (and this is the complicated part) the situation in Darfur is not the same as the situation in Iraq.
I get your point of view though. Iraq is an act of American aggression and all about oil, while Dafur would be the noble cause of protecting innocents from genocide .... yes its all clear now
Originally posted by NemesioPeople actively vote to be taxed more? Is there something wrong with these people? Well, wait, my brother lives in the Peoples Republic of California and he can be pretty darn dense ... some of the time.. well make that most the time. If there are a majority of Californians thinking like he does, it explains everything.
Anyway, if this were true (which it's not), is it the Governor's responsibility to change the laws
that the people who remain have overwhelmingly approved?
If you say 'yes,' then you're not a Republican; you're a socialist.
Nemesio
Its all clear as mud to me now ...
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterI better work out more at the gym and lose more weight before that happens then, I wanna look like there is very little meat on my bones and thereby be a less attractive dinner treat to hordes of Ted Turner's cannibalistic followers
John D. Rockefeller was a prominent SD. Many of America's captains of industry during the Gilded Age were also into SDism. It wouldn't surprise me if Ted Turner was too, only I fear they didn't let him into their club and he went insane. Thus his interview last week on the Charlie Rose Show where he said all the survivors were going to resort to cannibalism in the aftermath of global warming.