Originally posted by SMSBear716What's so unclear? The vast majority of people in California (a growing State, despite DSR's
People actively vote to be taxed more? Is there something wrong with these people? Well, wait, my brother lives in the Peoples Republic of California and he can be pretty darn dense ... some of the time.. well make that most the time. If there are a majority of Californians thinking like he does, it explains everything.
Its all clear as mud to me now ...
BS claim to the contrary) like the bizarre laws that that it has. It's fine if you and DSR don't
like it: don't move there. But DSR seems to want the Governor to change those laws despite the
fact that the majority of people there don't want them changed.
That's socialism, bud, the exact opposite of what DSR claims to enjoy.
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Originally posted by der schwarze RitterThe robber barrons of those days made no secret of their social darwinism. Ted Turner on the other hand... Oh boy!
John D. Rockefeller was a prominent SD. Many of America's captains of industry during the Gilded Age were also into SDism. It wouldn't surprise me if Ted Turner was too, only I fear they didn't let him into their club and he went insane. Thus his interview last week on the Charlie Rose Show where he said all the survivors were going to resort to cannibalism in the aftermath of global warming.
But I don't think what he said was social darwinist. He was advocating a collectivist approach to solving the problem of global warming. He encouraged everyone on earth to pledge to have two or fewer children. And he's giving a billion dollars to the UN. He doesn't sound like much of a social darwinist to me.
In your first post you described them as One-World Social Darwinists. Is that even consistent? Doesn't the One World crowd want to take extranious measures to keep the poor alive? A Social Darwinist would just let 'em starve, right?
Originally posted by bjohnson407I said they wouldn't let him join, but they showed him some of the things going on behind the scenes and it drove him nuts. Maybe that's why they wouldn't let him join, because he went crazy when they showed him the diabolicalness of their scheme. That's just my pet theory about Turner. Anyway, the groups you mentioned form two distinct camps and want similar things: to be in charge of the one-world government.
The robber barrons of those days made no secret of their social darwinism. Ted Turner on the other hand... Oh boy!
But I don't think what he said was social darwinist. He was advocating a collectivist approach to solving the problem of global warming. He encouraged everyone on earth to pledge to have two or fewer children. And he's giving a billion d ...[text shortened]... nious measures to keep the poor alive? A Social Darwinist would just let 'em starve, right?
The SD believe that because they've amassed so much money, that is the mark that distinguishes them from the rest of us. In order to create their vast amounts of wealth, they've had to forgo little things like ethics and morals. As such, they're convinced they've evolved into "the new man." The rest of us, in the SDer's eyes, are mere cattle, to do with as they wish. That's why they've foisted this inferior education system on us that continues to sap our ability to be independent and they continue to work behind the scenes in banking, entertainment, media, etc. to create the culture that drives us to their one-world government that will have ultimate authority over who marries, who procreates, what job you can do, what you can think, etc. In their vision, the world would be depopulated and turned into some kind of bizarre big game ranch/poor man's Garden of Eden. All the "inferiors" (politically unorthodox, the religious, Americans who think the Constitution means what it says, etc.) would "disappear," except for the ones needed for menial labor.
In the other camp are a collection of like minded individuals, the socialists/communists/liberals/Democrats/anarchists/environmentalists, etc. They want us all to be equal and don't want anyone to succeed because that would make the rest of us self conscious. Their greatest fear is that anyone will feel the pain of losing. And though they build social nets to keep anyone from failing, they also prevent anyone from winning. Their dream also is to establish a one-world government where they oversee the proletariat, because, after all, they were smart enough to figure out this goal and see it come to fruition. I guess you could flip a coin and the outcome would be about the same. What a nightmare.
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterYou gave me a much more interesting answer than I was expecting. Let me know if it sounds like I'm following...
I said they wouldn't let him join, but they showed him some of the things going on behind the scenes and it drove him nuts. Maybe that's why they wouldn't let him join, because he went crazy when they showed him the diabolicalness of their scheme. That's just my pet theory about Turner. Anyway, the groups you mentioned form two distinct camps ...[text shortened]... could flip a coin and the outcome would be about the same. What a nightmare.
Your theory is that there are two distinct factions of hyper-elites who both think that they know what's best for the entire world? The former (the SD's) seeing themselves almost like Plato's philosopher kings or Nietchean Over-men. While the latter (the elite left?) wants to set in motion a sort of utopian global democracy.
But both groups think that they know what's best for everyone, namely a Single-World-Government of their design. Also, both groups have a vested interest in us (the herd) not being able to see the light and become triumphant individuals ourselves.
am I getting it so far?
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterWhile the lumping of those groups with totally antithetical beliefs is
In the other camp are a collection of like minded individuals, the socialists/communists/liberals/Democrats/anarchists/environmentalists, etc. They want us all to be equal and don't want anyone to succeed because that would make the rest of us self conscious.
itself laughable, let's pretend the conclusion is true: that they want to
make everyone equal. The alternative you offer is even worse: to make
everyone just like you. You want laws, penalties and regulations constructed
so that the little universe you think is just right becomes the standard
for every other person. You don't want only want people to be equal,
but to think exactly the same way. You are exactly what 1984 prophesied:
an expert at Doublespeak, misrepresenting people with different views
and quoting statistics in a deliberately misleading way.
Eurasia has always been at war with Oceania.
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