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‘All lives don’t matter until black lives matter’ - Faf du Plessis, SA cricket captain.
@dj2becker saidWell that’s just a truism surely, unless you believe that black people are not actually people.
‘All lives don’t matter until black lives matter’ - Faf du Plessis, SA cricket captain.
@kevcvs57 saidIf all lives matter then it follows that black lives matter.
Well that’s just a truism surely, unless you believe that black people are not actually people.
I’m jumping on this without knowing whether or not you agree with du Plessis so apologies if it seems a bit snappy.
@lemon-lime saidYeah... do you comprehend where the sentiment comes from?
If all lives matter then it follows that black lives matter.
If anyone's life doesn't matter, then all lives do not matter.
Regardless of how you feel about someone, 'all' does not exclude anyone.
@shavixmir said
Yeah... do you comprehend where the sentiment comes from?
And why expanding the definition (which in itself is quite correct) deminishes from the objective?
do you comprehend where the sentiment comes from?Yes. It's a reaction to a perceived bias regardless of whether that bias exists or not. It erroneously assumes an invisible strawman saying black lives don't matter.
@lemon-lime saidAre black people generally poorer than white people?do you comprehend where the sentiment comes from?Yes. It's a reaction to a perceived bias regardless of whether that bias exists or not. It erroneously assumes an invisible strawman saying black lives don't matter.
It's not a definition, it's a three word slogan. It's designed to give you the impression they are responding to people who don't believe they m ...[text shortened]... this nonsense, then you are one of the villains who don't think they matter.
See how that works?
@lemon-lime saidYeah that was my point, it’s a truism that all lives cannot matter unless everyone’s life matters.
If all lives matter then it follows that black lives matter.
If anyone's life doesn't matter, then all lives do not matter.
Regardless of how you feel about someone, 'all' does not exclude anyone.
@lemon-lime saidYour ignoring the evidence that to some in the US and other places black lives apparently did not matter because you could kill them in broad daylight and just walk away again and again.do you comprehend where the sentiment comes from?Yes. It's a reaction to a perceived bias regardless of whether that bias exists or not. It erroneously assumes an invisible strawman saying black lives don't matter.
It's not a definition, it's a three word slogan. It's designed to give you the impression they are responding to people who don't believe they m ...[text shortened]... this nonsense, then you are one of the villains who don't think they matter.
See how that works?
@kevcvs57 saidIf black lives matter but not all lives matter, then whose life in your opinion does not matter?
Yeah that was my point, it’s a truism that all lives cannot matter unless everyone’s life matters.
@lemon-lime saidNot really because your making stuff up, who has claimed that anyone’s life doesn’t matter?
If black lives matter but not all lives matter, then whose life in your opinion does not matter?
See how that works? Like it or not, two can play at this game. If you want to pretend your position is unassailable that's fine, but not everyone can be fooled into thinking it's okay for protesters to 'inadvertently' provide cover for destructive riots. Peaceful protesters ...[text shortened]... lihood matter? Apparently not... the mob are equal opportunity destructors of lives and livelihoods.