@shavixmir saidWhen you mention such as cars, we (Ford) invented the assembly line, so your BMW et al picked up on it, 'coattailed', so please see the big picture. Sure , you may have 'invented' the computer ( 🤔 ) but we took it and ran with it. I am speaking of HUGE production, the biggest in the world.
Yeah… it was an English guy who invented the modern computer. A gay English guy.
However, calculators were invented much earlier… in Europe.
And the people who built America in 400 years, did they start as cavemen? Or did they carry thousands of years worth of knowledge with them?
It seems to me that “the article” you lost was some part of some dream or brain fart.
Uhh, you will recognize that we are number 1, I presume. Could it have been because of capitalism? Would marxism have been better? Would it? Yes or no, please.
Whew.
@jj-adams saidLibs fail to acknowledge the 'tribe' concept, the world is full of tribes. Equates to cultures, of course, each is different.
They spent all their time warring against neighboring tribes so they could take each other's stuff and make slaves out of each other, if they didn't torture them to death.
They froze in the winter, burned up in the summer, if they got sick or got an infection from a scratch or eating spoiled meat, they died. They treated women like dogs and had to do whatever the Big Chief of the week said to do.
Yeah, some kind of paradise.
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@jj-adams saidTaking credit for all the advances and discoveries of the Old World? Your Nordic savage ancestors were just lucky they had a land bridge to Asia to get access to their technology.
Yeah.
As compared to the thousands of years the indians had to do make something besides teepees and bows and arrows.
If it hadn't been for Europeans, they'd still be living exactly the same as they did a thousand years ago.
Same can be said for Africans and South Americans..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olmecs
The Olmec may have been the first civilization in the Western Hemisphere to develop a writing system. Symbols found in 2002 and 2006 date from 650 BCE[67] and 900 BCE[68] respectively,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runes
The earliest secure runic inscriptions date from around AD 150, with a potentially earlier inscription dating to AD 50 and Tacitus's potential description of rune use from around AD 98. The Svingerud Runestone dates from between AD 1 to 250.
@averagejoe1 saidChina seems to be better as mass production of other peoples' tech than the USA is.
When you mention such as cars, we (Ford) invented the assembly line, so your BMW et al picked up on it, 'coattailed', so please see the big picture. Sure , you may have 'invented' the computer ( 🤔 ) but we took it and ran with it. I am speaking of HUGE production, the biggest in the world.
Uhh, you will recognize that we are number 1, I presume. Could it have been because of capitalism? Would marxism have been better? Would it? Yes or no, please.
Whew.
@averagejoe1 saidThe Dutch had a worldwide Empire when the fanatic Puritan cultists landed at Plymouth. That's why New York was founded as New Amsterdam.
Obviously, the immigrants who built america had to come from somewhere, so what is your point.? They hit the beaches, became americans, nor more potato famine, started agriculture, the rest is history. Your ref to 1783 is when we put pen to paper, got official. Actually we cranked it up at Plymouth Rock, Jamestown, St Augustine,,,all iin early 1600. We all went to work ...[text shortened]... lly really craniking it up, inventing independence, airplanes and capitalism!!! (sorry, Marauder).
@athousandyoung saidundoubtedly you have never used a chinese machine
China seems to be better as mass production of other peoples' tech than the USA is.
@athousandyoung saidal these people that founded the US were fleeing govts that you libs want to create here
The Dutch had a worldwide Empire when the fanatic Puritan cultists landed at Plymouth. That's why New York was founded as New Amsterdam.
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@mott-the-hoople saidI have a Chinese motorcycle. Cost a thousand bucks brand new.
undoubtedly you have never used a chinese machine
Looks like the price went up since I bought it before COVID.
https://www.redfoxpowersports.com/boom-125cc-motorcycle-type-125-10-with-12-inch-wheels
@shavixmir
Actually calculators were invented in China in the Song dynasty around the year 900 or so and the Antikathera mechanism was a VERY advanced astronomical calculator built 2000 years ago in Greece, The Chinese one calculated planet movements and a lot more and was huge and it had an escapement centuries before Europe thought of that way to make steady clock beats. They also had industrialized machinery to mass produce many kinds of products, all powered by water wheels.
After the Song dynasty died out in the 1200's, that technology was mainly lost.
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@averagejoe1 saidAre you talking about the same Bill Gates from the "deep blue" Northwest, who had nothing good to say about Donald Trump, who votes Democrat, and welcomed the dawn of the Biden administration? Your admiration for those "smarty pants" Liberals is interesting Joe. There might be hope for you yet! 😏
Please compare unknown 'english guy' to the known 'bill gates'.
I know you have a problem with links Joe, so I spelled it out for you below.
https://www.thefreemanonline.org/is-bill-gate-a-democrat-or-republican/#Democrat%20Or%20Republican:%20Here%20Is%20What%20You%20Need%20to%20Know
The public record reveals that Bill Gates gave money to support about eight or more Democrats campaign, and he also gave money to support about six or less Republican campaigns. Although Gates sends gifts to both the Democrats and the Republican, with the extra supports he gives to the Democrats, it is clear that Gates endorses the Democratic Party.
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@averagejoe1 saidYou really think you out-produce China?
When you mention such as cars, we (Ford) invented the assembly line, so your BMW et al picked up on it, 'coattailed', so please see the big picture. Sure , you may have 'invented' the computer ( 🤔 ) but we took it and ran with it. I am speaking of HUGE production, the biggest in the world.
Uhh, you will recognize that we are number 1, I presume. Could it have been because of capitalism? Would marxism have been better? Would it? Yes or no, please.
Whew.
You don’t. Not by a long shot.
And Germany is fourth place with 1/5th of the populatoon of the US.
When you add up the production within the EU (roughly the same population as the US), Europe out-produces the US.
For example:
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/global-manufacturing-scorecard-how-the-us-compares-to-18-other-nations/
Let’s check where the assembly line began… insert waving of hands and a puff of historical smoke….
Division of labor was practiced by Ancient Greeks, Chinese and other ancient civilizations. In Ancient Greece it was discussed by Plato and Xenophon…
The Venetian Arsenal, dating to about 1104, operated similar to a production line. Ships moved down a canal and were fitted by the various shops they passed. At the peak of its efficiency in the early 16th century, the Arsenal employed some 16,000 people who could apparently produce nearly one ship each day and could fit out, arm, and provision a newly built galley with standardized parts on an assembly-line basis
Probably the earliest industrial example of a linear and continuous assembly process is the Portsmouth Block Mills, built between 1801 and 1803. Marc Isambard Brunel (father of Isambard Kingdom Brunel), with the help of Henry Maudslay and others, designed 22 types of machine tools to make the parts for the rigging blocks used by the Royal Navy.
Oh. Deary me. Looks like your Ford story is yet another fairytale sold to you by the pro-American lobby of intellectual nihilism.
@jj-adams saidLol and we beat them by a couple of millennia mainly due to interactions between civilisations speeding the spread of best practice and innovation.
Yeah.
As compared to the thousands of years the indians had to do make something besides teepees and bows and arrows.
If it hadn't been for Europeans, they'd still be living exactly the same as they did a thousand years ago.
Same can be said for Africans and South Americans..
If it wasn’t for the innovations developed in the Middle East like agriculture and animal husbandry Europeans would still be hunter gatherers living in small mud hut based Hunter gatherer communities.
You think the indigenous people of N America are happier on their reservations than they were living unmolested by greedy Europeans
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Yesterday I called the Apple help line, computer problem. I was connected within 90 seconds, no charge of course, spent an hour clearing an e-mail problem. This is typical USA service, forlack of a better word. This is an example of how we excel, beyond all the stuff you attempt to throw at me. We have an ATM on every corner. You might say that we are more modernized? Singapore may be too, but they jail people for dropping cigarettes.!
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@shavixmir saidOMG you are such a liar.
You really think you out-produce China?
You don’t. Not by a long shot.
China barely outproduces the USA according to your source.
What you fail to mention is China has FIVE TIMES the population of the US.
On a per capita basis China only produces 20% of the US.
But if it makes you feel better, yeah China's total production is just a smidgeon more the America's.
With a population of 1.5 billion it's nothing to brag about.
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@mott-the-hoople saidThey were mostly fleeing religious or racial persecution, or war, or endemic poverty.
al these people that founded the US were fleeing govts that you libs want to create here