Here's a report from a credible source, WPRO 630, a Providence radio station:
Occupiers say the protest was actually organized by the Rhode Island Sexism League. While the Occupy Providence General Assembly voted unanimously to endorse the protest, the protest was actually conducted by Sexism League.
http://www.630wpro.com/Article.asp?id=2382498&spid=38785
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/christianethics/abortion_1.shtml
The Roman Catholic Church says that deliberately causing an abortion is a grave moral wrong.
It bases this doctrine on NATURAL LAW( there's that phrase again !)and on the written word of God.
When life begins
The Church says that human life begins when the woman's egg is fertilised by a male sperm.
From that moment a unique life begins, independent of the life of the mother and father. The features that distinguish us from our parents - the colour of our eyes, the shape of our face - are all laid down in the genetic code that comes into existence then.
Each new life that begins at this point is not a potential human being but a human being with potential.
History
Since the sixteenth century, causing or having an abortion led to automatic excommunication.
This is stated in the Code of Canon Law (1983): "A person who actually procures an abortion incurs automatic excommunication" (Canon 1398).
The Church condemned abortion as early as the 2nd century CE: a document called the Didache, written in the 2nd century (some time after 100 CE), states: "You shall not kill the embryo by abortion and shall not cause the newborn to perish".
Originally posted by utherpendragonSo what?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/christianethics/abortion_1.shtml
[b]The Roman Catholic Church says that deliberately causing an abortion is a grave moral wrong.
It bases this doctrine on natural law and on the written word of God.
When life begins
The Church says that human life begins when the woman's egg is fe ...[text shortened]... "You shall not kill the embryo by abortion and shall not cause the newborn to perish".[/b]
86% of Catholics approve of abortion when
a woman’s health is seriously endangered, and
78% think it should be possible for a woman to
obtain an abortion when a pregnancy is the
result of rape. (GSS, 2008)
A poll of almost 1,000 Catholics found that only
14% agree with the Vatican’s position that abortion
should be illegal. (BRS, 2009)
A study of almost 9,500 women showed that
Catholic women have abortions at the same rate
as do other women: 28% of women who had an
abortion self-identified as Catholic, while 27% of
all women of reproductive age identified as such.
(Guttmacher, 2010)
ABORTION
When Catholic voters were asked about healthcare
reform, half or more support health insurance
coverage—whether it is private or government
insurance—for abortion:
• when a pregnancy poses a threat to the
life of a woman ( 84% )
• when a pregnancy is due to rape or incest ( 76% )
• when a pregnancy poses long-term health risks
for a woman ( 73% )
• when test results show a fetus has a severe,
abnormal condition ( 66% )
• whenever a women and her doctor decide
it is appropriate ( 50% )
(BRS, 2009)
A poll of almost 3,000 adults found that the views
of Catholics on abortion are consistent with those of
the rest of the population.
Legal in All Cases
Legal in Most or Some Cases
Not Legal
Unsure
Catholic
Respondents
All
Respondents
16%
59%
21%
4%
17%
63%
15%
5%
(Pew, 2008)
http://www.catholicsforchoice.org/topics/catholicsandchoice/documents/Factstellthestoryweb.pdf pp. 6-7
Originally posted by no1marauderI don't care about some poll. The Roman Catholic church is against abortion. Bottom line.
86% of Catholics approve of abortion when
a woman’s health is seriously endangered, and
78% think it should be possible for a woman to
obtain an abortion when a pregnancy is the
result of rape. (GSS, 2008)
A poll of almost 1,000 Catholics found that only
14% agree with the Vatican’s position that abortion
should be illegal. (BRS, 2009)
A study of ...[text shortened]... .catholicsforchoice.org/topics/catholicsandchoice/documents/Factstellthestoryweb.pdf pp. 6-7
Originally posted by utherpendragonA "host" can insist you leave if they don't want you there.
For one, the woman is a host to a new life. A host.
Secondly, the baby is not hers. It is not her personal property to do a she wishes with it. Where is the child's "natural right" that you always cry about ? Does the Father not have no "natural right" to raise his child, as well ?
Non-viable zygotes/embryos/ fetuses cannot have separate physical existence and therefore have no Natural Rights.
A Father i.e. the male parent of a child who has been born has a "natural right" to raise his child. A male has no "Natural Right" to command a female what she may do within the confines of her own body, however.
Originally posted by utherpendragonThe discussion wasn't about the official position of the Roman Catholic Church, but about American Roman Catholics.
I don't care about some poll. The Roman Catholic church is against abortion. Bottom line.
uther: Catholics are religious freaks now no1?
Actually I specifically commented not about Catholics, but about the persons present at the "pro-life" rally in Providence, RI on January 26, 2012. But either way, your comments have been proven to be misinformed (no surprise there considering your sources of information).
The Roman Catholic Church says that deliberately causing an abortion is a grave moral wrong.
It bases this doctrine on NATURAL LAW( there's that phrase again !)and on the written word of God.
When life begins
The Church says that human life begins when the woman's egg is fertilised by a male sperm.
From that moment a unique life begins, independent of the life of the mother and father. The features that distinguish us from our parents - the colour of our eyes, the shape of our face - are all laid down in the genetic code that comes into existence then.
Each new life that begins at this point is not a potential human being but a human being with potential.
This interpretation has been around a very long time no1marauder. Held by billions of individuals. But, with your new "progressive" mind set you say people who cherish life this much are "religious freaks" .
Originally posted by no1marauderThe discussion changed to this when I asked you what the position of the Catholic church was on abortion. You could not give a coherent or informed response. Now you back pedal in typical form.
The discussion wasn't about the official position of the Roman Catholic Church, but about American Roman Catholics.
uther: Catholics are religious freaks now no1?
Actually I specifically commented not about Catholics, but about the persons present at the "pro-life" rally in Providence, RI on January 26, 2012. But either way, your com ...[text shortened]... ve been proven to be misinformed (no surprise there considering your sources of information).
That's where we are at.
Originally posted by USArmyParatrooperred herring- An observation that draws attention away from the central issue in an argument or discussion.
Blatant deflection.
You're arguing against a woman's right to choose so the question is completely relevant.
But thank you for proving you're afraid to answer.
Nice try. Now drop and give me 50 !