@no1marauder saidThere you are, let out sunshine😂. This movement of today didn’t start then, it’s a new thing. My feelings are not anger towards trans people it comes from the stupidity of how far it’s been pushed for political reasons. I couldn’t care less what they, you do, but indoctrination of our children at young ages and in public schools, taking parents out of the picture, private areas that should be men and boys free along with safety concerns is a huge line to cross for the non lgbtq movement and this is what my strong feelings are about. Sports, are you sh ting me???? Punish people when they complain, like parents and children for speaking out in school. All of this perceived as deserved entitlement goes against all common sense and logic along with what’s been accepted since forever and natural law, nature. Do you really think there isn’t huge amounts of research showing differences between men and women, to where on your side only it’s a new thing with limited amounts, how stupid can you possibly get.
My, my you're a touchy POS aren't you?
Your anger shows this has nothing to do with any concern about competition in women's sports (which you never even heard right wingers talk about before the last few years except with scorn) and only with your hate.
You're an ignorant SOB as well; transgender people have existed for as long as we can tell: https://www.buzzfeed ...[text shortened]... rn something new every day unless you're stubbornly ignorant (not mentioning any names but .......).
@no1marauder saidWithout all of your low number possibilities, what makes a man a man that’s different from a woman.
I decided to ask a biologist (well not really but I did do an internet search) and found out they aren't sure sometimes:
"About 1.7 percent of the population is intersex and don’t fit neatly into male and female boxes, according to InterAct, an advocacy organization for intersex youth. That’s as common as having naturally red hair. Intersex people may have any of a wid ...[text shortened]... article. I suggest you read and Cliff and Mott have someone read it to them (very slowly of course).
@no1marauder saidIt’s hard sometimes when dealing with a person dodging everything, with no common sense or logic thinking their making great points. Did you have read what someone else wrote to learn how take a piss.
My, my you're a touchy POS aren't you?
Your anger shows this has nothing to do with any concern about competition in women's sports (which you never even heard right wingers talk about before the last few years except with scorn) and only with your hate.
You're an ignorant SOB as well; transgender people have existed for as long as we can tell: https://www.buzzfeed ...[text shortened]... rn something new every day unless you're stubbornly ignorant (not mentioning any names but .......).
@no1marauder said?si=ZrfvkO7vZFfCsG4o
"Much improved"? From the article you quoted but didn't cite:
"Thomas lost muscle mass and strength through testosterone suppression and hormone replacement therapy. Her time for the 500 freestyle is over 15 seconds slower than her personal bests before medically transitioning.[15][16][17]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lia_Thomas
It seems she won one major event, ...[text shortened]... le you've got it's very little support for any banning of transgender women for competitive reasons.
@no1marauder saidEveryone, never think for a minute that Marauder is obsessed with tran
Funny, I didn't start the thread, so who's "obsessed" about the subject?
@mike69 saidThanks Mike, thought I was all alone. Great point in one sentence, ,,,,sorry, I am not qualified to do thumbs....i dont fit the mold!
It’s hard sometimes when dealing with a person dodging everything, with no common sense or logic thinking their making great points. Did you have read what someone else wrote to learn how take a piss.
@AverageJoe1 saidFine, I'll make a deal:
Everyone, never think for a minute that Marauder is obsessed with tran
You right wingers stop making a thread every time a transgender woman competes in, say, a badminton tournament and I'll stop eviscerating your pathetic arguments which always come down to "It's a dude"!
OK with you?
@no1marauder saidAKA…birth defects
I decided to ask a biologist (well not really but I did do an internet search) and found out they aren't sure sometimes:
"About 1.7 percent of the population is intersex and don’t fit neatly into male and female boxes, according to InterAct, an advocacy organization for intersex youth. That’s as common as having naturally red hair. Intersex people may have any of a wid ...[text shortened]... article. I suggest you read and Cliff and Mott have someone read it to them (very slowly of course).
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@no1marauder saidLOL…making up for your short peepee? 😂
Fine, I'll make a deal:
You right wingers stop making a thread every time a transgender woman competes in, say, a badminton tournament and I'll stop eviscerating your pathetic arguments which always come down to "It's a dude"!
OK with you?
@mike69 saidYou are not the only one that has encountered this numbskull awarding himself/herself victories
It’s hard sometimes when dealing with a person dodging everything, with no common sense or logic thinking their making great points. Did you have read what someone else wrote to learn how take a piss.
@mike69 saidThat doesn't work; if you're going to make a legally binding definition, it can't omit something like 6 million individuals in the US alone.
Without all of your low number possibilities, what makes a man a man that’s different from a woman.
And if a biologist says " “These are not hard categories with clear definitions.” why do you think a simple, small town lawyer is better qualified than him to decide?
At the early phases of these discussions, I relied on what people usually do i.e. assigning sex based on external genitalia {"It's a boy/girl"😉. But right wingers don't want that because many transwoman have vaginas leading to the absurd assertion that men can have vaginas (I'll ignore your anti-medical claim that they aren't "real vaginas". ) It can't be decided by chromosomes or you have people with Swyer syndrome being "males" despite not only having a vagina but ovaries and a uterus as well. A similar problem arises with those having XX chromosomes but having gonads.
Legally the issue has been decided as I have repeatedly pointed out and no one has seriously disputed (Yes in 46 States you can change the sex on your government ID documents, yes the SCOTUS decided discrimination in employment against transgender persons is "sexual discrimination" and yes all reputable medical organization agree that one can change one's sex by gender affirming surgery/treatments). None of you have been willing to admit those facts, however.
@no1marauder saidThe fact that you think this is the problem when the whole picture has been explained over and over to you is amazing. You eviscerate yourself, you’re just either too dumb or proud to admit or see it! Here’s your logic, let’s piss on women’s rights and safety making up almost 51 percent of our population to satisfy an extremely tiny portion of the populations fairy tale of if you believe something it must be true. You’re an inspiration with such great insight and intelligence that I’m almost left speechless there marauder.
Fine, I'll make a deal:
You right wingers stop making a thread every time a transgender woman competes in, say, a badminton tournament and I'll stop eviscerating your pathetic arguments which always come down to "It's a dude"!
OK with you?
@AverageJoe1 saidNo, thank you😁!
Thanks Mike, thought I was all alone. Great point in one sentence, ,,,,sorry, I am not qualified to do thumbs....i dont fit the mold!
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@Mott-The-Hoople saidA stupid statement by a stupid man.
AKA…birth defects
I'm not even sure medical organizations use the term "birth defects" anymore but even assuming just for the sake of arguments these are, how does that change anything? An all-encompassing definition has to apply to people with "birth defects" too.
@no1marauder saidAre you a man?
That doesn't work; if you're going to make a legally binding definition, it can't omit something like 6 million individuals in the US alone.
And if a biologist says " “These are not hard categories with clear definitions.” why do you think a simple, small town lawyer is better qualified than him to decide?
At the early phases of these discussions, I relied on what p ...[text shortened]... y gender affirming surgery/treatments). None of you have been willing to admit those facts, however.