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Originally posted by stockenWow! With such a grimm outlook on life how do you go on living day to day and not blow your brains out? You've actually got me depressed. I need a drink!
Then the system you speak of, where it's possible for people to get
wealthy without exploiting others is a figment of your imagination. It might
be possible, but I don't see how when the resources at our disposal simply
isn't enough to support the entire human population of planet earth. We're
much like a virus, multiplying in a maniacal rate and eat ...[text shortened]... ble even for people with no muscle power or dexterity to
survive and pass on their genes.
Originally posted by stevetoddSay that to the poor bugger struggling for a few hundred pounds a month.
I wouldn't really class £1m as rich these days, I was assuming the debate was referring to multi multi millionaires
Or the guy who has to perfect the art of thieving because he can't make a
decent living (food on the table and roof over his head) any other way.
Puts! Of course a millions pounds is a great personal wealth. It's more than
you really need to survive and then some. Now, if everyone in the world, no
matter the background or location were given the same opportunity to make
money on such a grand scale, I'd agree that you can get rich without having
to exploit others. But really, that's not the truth, is it?
Originally posted by wedgehead2well I stopped working cos I didn't need to, that makes me poor by your reckoning
So car, house, etc..?
The value of many houses in Britain would put you up towards £1m- I think the salary is a better indication, at least if the people we're talking about are employed.
Originally posted by UllrDepressing indeed. But this is the laws of nature. Survival of the fittest. The
Wow! With such a grimm outlook on life how do you go on living day to day and not blow your brains out? You've actually got me depressed. I need a drink!
question is if we have to be total buttholes about it, or if we can actually
consider lowering our own standard of living to help raise it in other parts of
the world. Of course, there will always be someone in between grabbing all
(s)he can and making us all look like real suckers. Unless we see to it
personally that our contributions makes it to the right places. And most of
us have personal lives and not enough power to do that so... well, what can
I say? Life's a biatch, but you gotta love it. If your fortunate enough.
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterDon't forget inheritances.
How then do you think people get rich? Do they find the money in a hole in the ground? Or do they rob someone at gunpoint and take it? I'd agree with your assessment of the rich if you're talking about people like the Kennedys or African kleptocrats, however, most people who are rich have earned their money because they were good at something or ...[text shortened]... is no crime in being rich. Instead of hectoring them, you should aspire to be more like them.
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterA "rich" person is, generally speaking, upper management at a company. The Rich person hires "poorer" people to actually do all the work.
As soon as the last productive person was gone, all you socialist types would turn on each other. Then, when the engines of the world stop turning, you'd be sitting alone in your cold, dark Victory Mansions, wondering why you welfare check hasn’t arrived yet.
The "rich" person takes the product made by the "poor" person and keeps the profit. This is how he gets rich.
The rich person does not actually do the work.
If the rich person had no "poor" people to do the work for him, the rich person would become poor himself.
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Originally posted by uzlessLOL. You've never actually owned a company have you?
A "rich" person is, generally speaking, upper management at a company. The Rich person hires "poorer" people to actually do all the work.
The "rich" person takes the product made by the "poor" person and keeps the profit. This is how he gets rich.
The rich person does not actually do the work.
If the rich person had no "poor" people to do the work for him, the rich person would become poor himself.
Originally posted by uzlessBut what is your defination of rich?
A "rich" person is, generally speaking, upper management at a company. The Rich person hires "poorer" people to actually do all the work.
The "rich" person takes the product made by the "poor" person and keeps the profit. This is how he gets rich.
The rich person does not actually do the work.
If the rich person had no "poor" people to do the work for him, the rich person would become poor himself.
Originally posted by stockenCareful stocken, if you keep thinking like that, one day you're going to grow up and become cynical.
...Give me an example of any place in the world where rich people are rich
without actually fooling or using poor people, and I'll happily step aside
so you can keep spraying the wall with your waste of bulls.