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Originally posted by stocken
If it's so important for you to define rich, how's this: "If you got more
than you really need to survive, you're rich"? And, yes, I'm talking about the
things you need to support your basic needs. Happiness, love and
friendship are secondary needs that can be supported no matter what.
If you want to live on the African veldt and eat bugs and wipe your arse with banana leaves like Java Man, then by all means, go ahead, no one’s stopping you.

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Originally posted by stocken
You have mastered the art of capitalism well my young apprentice. Now, use
the dark side of the force and let it give you strength and power beyond
your imagination.
The only reason we have tax havens and loopholes here is because our progressive tax code is so arcane that it pays to find the legal exemptions in the tax laws. If you’ve earned the money, then why not keep it? I can do far more good with it than the government can.

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Originally posted by stocken
If it's so important for you to define rich, how's this: "If you got more
than you really need to survive, you're rich"? And, yes, I'm talking about the
things you need to support your basic needs. Happiness, love and
friendship are secondary needs that can be supported no matter what.
Well none of us really need this RHP subscription so I guess we're rich. WooooHooooooooo!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Where in the Western world does someone have to turn to thieving as opposed to going out and doing and honest week's work? Even people who begin their careers at McDonalds earning minimum wage receive a salary increase within the first two months. I think your attitude is all that's holding you back.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm not held back. I just see my income; the
reason I can have my way of life for what it is (the broken spirit of some
poor nine year old chap in Pakistan sewing together my price worthy
shoes with bleeding fingers and a running nose barely making enough
to support his mother and siblings).

You do realise that there's a whole world outside the borders of the US,
affected by the "American way of life"? If it wasn't for the fact that we in
the western world can get cheap raw material and labour in other parts of
the world we would have to actually struggle just for our basic needs.
Some would suggest that we'd be happier that way. I don't know, but I
suspect that in twenty some years we'll know, as China and India
becomes the leading economic powers of the world.

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Originally posted by uzless
Most people can live within their means now. They want tax cuts so they can extend those means further than they are now. How many people here own a LCD or Plasma TV? Or a 40K car instead of 20K car?
Do you really need it? Or do you just want it?

Maybe people should learn to live within their means before they start on about tax cuts and government spending. When you live in a glass house, you shouldn't throw stones.
I have zero credit card debt and no mortgage or car note so I get to cast the first stone. I hope you're a fast runner.

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Originally posted by Ullr
Well none of us really need this RHP subscription so I guess we're rich. WooooHooooooooo!!!!!!!
Indeed we are.

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Originally posted by Redmike
I would support a law which dictates that the highest paid person in an organisation cannot be paid more than 10X that of the lowest paid.

If you want to pay a CEO £10million a year, you have to pay the cleaners £1 million a year.
Not a bad idea. Let's start with the New York Yankees.

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Originally posted by stocken
You have mastered the art of capitalism well my young apprentice. Now, use
the dark side of the force and let it give you strength and power beyond
your imagination.
Now hold on a second. He's not ready to be a Sith Jedi Master just yet. He still hasn't learned how to outsource manufacturing jobs or do wire transfers to offshore accounts.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
I have zero credit card debt and no mortgage or car note so I get to cast the first stone. I hope you're a fast runner.
It was about want over need- not debt.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
The problem for governments is not a lack of revenues but rather profligate spending. Governments should learn to live within their means.
Them living within their means is the same as the wealth of the country they control.
Why should governments limit spending to very low levels? Governments should tax enough and spend wisely to create a good welfare state.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
The antithesis to the economic model you've described is called communism and it doesn't work.
Its never been put into practice...

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
What if your punk rock band, The F-holes, got signed to a contract and you found yourself at the top of the charts with your hit song: "God loves a commie!" and all of a sudden you were earning in excess of U.S. $196,000? Would you feel the same way? How would you feel if the British government came in and took $96,000 right off the top for a win he end of that first year. Not bad, eh? If I were you, I'd start looking for a tax haven.
I would give up $176,000 to know that everyone in my country had food and shelter, yes. I could live on $20,000.

Sacrifice for the good of the community- something you don't get.

Tax haven- i just wouldn't be interested.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
I have zero credit card debt and no mortgage or car note so I get to cast the first stone. I hope you're a fast runner.
I'm safe. Your aim is off since you seem to be missing the point

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Originally posted by wedgehead2
I would give up $176,000 to know that everyone in my country had food and shelter, yes. I could live on $20,000.

Sacrifice for the good of the community- something you don't get.

Tax haven- i just wouldn't be interested.
Likewise. I'm happy to pay my taxes knowing that it's making sure that a young inner city kid is getting proper nutrition, or that it means that a single mum doesn't have to work three jobs just to pay rent and put food in the refrigerator. I'm happy that the old and the infirm get medical help and meals on wheels.

dsr, Republican poster-boy, sees things a different way. A very bad way for the poor and the weak. But then, he's only defending those poor, weak, downtrodden rich people.

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Originally posted by scottishinnz
Likewise. I'm happy to pay my taxes knowing that it's making sure that a young inner city kid is getting proper nutrition, or that it means that a single mum doesn't have to work three jobs just to pay rent and put food in the refrigerator. I'm happy that the old and the infirm get medical help and meals on wheels.

dsr, Republican poster-boy, see ...[text shortened]... oor and the weak. But then, he's only defending those poor, weak, downtrodden rich people.
Is dsr a republican? I thought he was more extreme than that!

So over 50% of the population in the world's most powerful country think like him?

Humanity is completely screwed. 😞:'(🙄😲