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Are women to blame for being raped?

Are women to blame for being raped?

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Originally posted by dags
hehehhehe good one 🙂
Thank you, dags.

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Originally posted by invigorate
So if a women is drunk she can be raped according to a judges ruling yesterday.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1888035,00.html

You dont even need to spike their drinks anymore.
If women were forbidden to drink, this wouldn't be a problem. It would also reduce infidelity.

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Originally posted by Bowmann
[b]counselling[/b]
Once again, you publically demonstrate your arrogance and stupidity by correcting a
word with a variant. It must feel so pathetic to know that, even with an anonymous
handle, you are jeered and ridiculed. You must lead a really lonely life. How do you
deal with the self-loathing you must feel?

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=counseling

Nemesio

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Originally posted by howardgee
well, imprison them of course.

Whilst in prison, they should be assessed by experts. If agreed to be serial rapists, then I think there is a case for chemical castration.

My point was that you were casting judgement having claimed not to judge people.
Would you let them out of prison, and if so, after how many years?...and what is chemical castration? How does chemical castration work if rape iAA about power?...is there a anti-power pill out there?...if so, why didn't we slip it into Baghdad's water supply to tame saddam?

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
God does not condone rapists or raping, but through His wisdom makes good things happen out of bad things, as His will dictates. Was that too collegiate for your elementary brain to analyze, Howard. God does not "allow" raping, but He gives us the choice to do evil and when we do, through His wisdom, something good usually comes out of it if we t ...[text shortened]... ring, and I don't need to read anything that has "fallacy" in its title....you are the moron.
I really must take exception with this post:

"God does not "allow" raping, but He gives us the choice to do evil and when we do, through His wisdom, something good usually comes out of it if we trust Him"

What on earth do you mean?

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Originally posted by Bowmann
1. Naturally.
2. Sex is power.
3. No. They're playing hard-to-get.
4. Where few people can watch.
5. Cut back on the number of women.
6. Yes. Bacterial infection is likely.
I must admit to being curious as to why you saw this thread as an opportunity to score a few cheap laughs when it's tackling a hugely emotive issue.

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this may be a mistake, but I'd like to try to categorise rape situations:

partner raping partner: this is sexual abuse, definitely illegal. the prevention is education of the rapist ( s/he may not know it's wrong... as odd as it may seem) and education of the victim: s/he needs to know that s/he can leave and s/he will get support, unfortunately that is dependant on the country/town/tribe.

Date Rape (intentional) this is a shady one. how do you determine if the rapist decided to drug the victim or just got carried away after too many drinks? education should solve this one... don't have sex while drunk, you miss the good parts anyways...

stranger rape: uncommon, usually preventable by being alert, armed, and intelligent. usually one of the three is enough.

I tried to avoid painting the usual male-rapist female-victim picture here. rape does cross the lines, clouding lines even further.

I guess the only way to be safe is to only have sex while sober...

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Originally posted by ivangrice
I really must take exception with this post:

"God does not "allow" raping, but He gives us the choice to do evil and when we do, through His wisdom, something good usually comes out of it if we trust Him"

What on earth do you mean?
Well, WW2 was an evil war and millions of people died because of mainy two people, Hitler and Stalin, right? Look what happened to the economies of Europe and Japan afterwards....two of the most powerful. My mother and father would have never met if not for WW2...maybe some of you think that's a bad result...doesn't matter. What about children who are killed accidentally, or on purpose, and their organs going to help a child in need, and that receiving-child growing into a productive adult with a family of his/her own. God gives each and every one of us, from the mightiest Kings to the lowliest street dwellers, a choice in how we live our lives, whether we choose to do good or evil, notwithstanding mental issues. We are free to choose everlasting life or everlasting damnnation, depending on how we choose; with choice come responsibilities and changes in one's life....all found in the New Testament of the Holy Bible...starting with the Book of John...peace

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
Well, WW2 was an evil war and millions of people died because of mainy two people, Hitler and Stalin, right? Look what happened to the economies of Europe and Japan afterwards....two of the most powerful. My mother and father would have never met if not for WW2...maybe some of you think that's a bad result...doesn't matter. What about children w ...[text shortened]... ife....all found in the New Testament of the Holy Bible...starting with the Book of John...peace
You don't think this 'God works in mysterious ways' argument is simply an attempt to assign spurious meaning to what are tragic events?

How does strong economies in Japan and Europe (not that strong!) even begin to justify the (in most cases) painful deaths of over *fifty million* people?

I wonder what the economic situation would have been if billions of dollars' worth of plant and material had *not* been destroyed in WW2, and millions of young men had lived productive lives instead of dying?

I cannot see how WW2 was anything other than a catastrophy.

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Originally posted by ivangrice
You don't think this 'God works in mysterious ways' argument is simply an attempt to assign spurious meaning to what are tragic events?

How does strong economies in Japan and Europe (not that strong!) even begin to justify the (in most cases) painful deaths of over *fifty million* people?

I wonder what the economic situation would have been if bil ...[text shortened]... roductive lives instead of dying?

I cannot see how WW2 was anything other than a catastrophy.
Your last three ovsevations say it all: Man had the choice to avoid all of these calamities, but he (man) listened to satan, who is the master of lies and destruction. Have you ever heard Black Sabbath's song "War Pigs"? (circa 1972) It's off the "Paranoid" LP, and it describes war and its resutls to a "T"....listen to it if you have the opportunity....Black Sabbath: 4 hippies, drugged-out alcoholics, even had the clarity to desrcibe satan as using man as the "puppet of destruction".

You are right that WW2 was a catastrophy, but so are ALL wars. Let me give a better example: the American Civil War. This war was about a section of the country (the South) wanting to sever ties with the North, but God wasn't going to have any of it because through His wisdom, He saw the future of the US in helping to destroy evil during WWs 1 and 2, the Communist invasion of Korea, the winning of the Cold War. However, through improper US leadership and the backing of a corrupt Regime (in Saigon) impersonating Democracy, God also allowed the US to stumble in Viet Nam. He may cause us to stumble in Iraq if we don't handle it properly. Back to the US Civil War: 600,000 soldiers died to keep the US a single entity that never looked back, allowed slavery to be abolished, and made the US the beacon of freedom that it still is today. Sacrifice, sometimes through actions caused by Satan and are allowd by God for the overall good of His purpose, as He gives us free choice, is the price we humans sometimes pay as a reult of our not following God. God doesn't condone war, disease, starvation, etc....man can stop ALL of these maladies if he were to put his collective heads together, forget about pride and greed, and start eradicating these destructive processes that man seems helpless to control...it's all in what man chooses, and man chooses death...always has, and until Christ returns, always will...peace

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Originally posted by Nemesio
Once again, you publically demonstrate your arrogance and stupidity by correcting a
word with a variant.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=counseling
This is an American dictionary and thus of no use to most. As an American, you really shouldn't be directing the word arrogance towards others.

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Originally posted by Bowmann
This is an American dictionary and thus of no use to most. As an American, you really shouldn't be directing the word arrogance towards others.
We're changing your world one word at a time.
Pardon the proud contempt of inferiors.

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Originally posted by xs
We're changing your world one word at a time.
You believe so.

However, the world is growing increasingly anti-American.*


*That's anti- to rhyme with aunty.

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
No, I would not condone abortion, as all things happen for the good of the Lord if one is a believer...even rape and murder and cancer and badluck. Out of the horror of rape, a genius child could be born to solve mankind's social, economic, and political problems; or a future rapist could be created...one never knows. I cannot pretend to know how ...[text shortened]... at only a woman in this circumstance can get answers to. Do you not despise rapists, howardgee?
Well I know one 13 year old rape victim in our town whose life is
ruined and the child will certainly not be a genius. How can you think
it right to force a 13 year old to bear a child as a result of rape?
She can't go to school, she can't afford child care, the father is in jail
not for rape BTW but for car theft. The parents are poster children for
white trash so they are no help. The so-called welfare system doesn't
give a crap, my son is a social worker in children and youth for our
county and personally turned the idiot (can't use stronger words here)
who raped her and nothing was done. The only result is bringing into
the world a kid who is going to be destined to be low IQ, a mother
who has no future and probably another kid destined to be on welfare
himself. You make these rediculous judgements based on a
non-existant god or a god who could care less about people, much
as you would deny that, then force a child to have a child and then
drop the situation like a hot potatoe and go on to the next so-called
precious life. Well bully for you, you judgemental @sshole, take your
god and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.

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