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  1. Subscribersonhouse
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    I was thinking about the 70 mil Trump hypnotized base, how much would it go down if he is convicted in courts for actual crimes and not 'just' process crap.
    So how much would that 70 mil have to be reduced to so it would ensure Trump, even if he avoids prison, the lessoned base would be required to make Trump a REAL dustbin of history?

    Like 60 mil? 50? 40?

    What number reduced from the 70 mil would cause republicans and especially the senate to grow back their missing balls and start honestly dealing with democrats again?
  2. Zugzwang
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    @sonhouse said
    I was thinking about the 70 mil Trump hypnotized base, how much would it go down if he is convicted in courts for actual crimes and not 'just' process crap.
    So how much would that 70 mil have to be reduced to so it would ensure Trump, even if he avoids prison, the lessoned base would be required to make Trump a REAL dustbin of history?

    Like 60 mil? 50? 40?

    What numbe ...[text shortened]... ecially the senate to grow back their missing balls and start honestly dealing with democrats again?
    Hitler participated in an insurrection. He was convicted of a crime and imprisoned.
    He used his time in prison to read a lot and start writing _Mein Kampf_
    So his criminal record and spell in prison did not prevent most Germans from
    eventually following Hitler.

    Why should a zealous supporter think worse of Trump if he's sent to prison?

    "... would cause republicans and especially the senate to grow back their missing balls ..."
    -Sonhouse

    What phallocentricity! Why could not an all-female legislature be just as competent
    as the all-male legislatures that dominated most of political history?

    I think that women in an all-female legislature could have a ball!
  3. Subscribersonhouse
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    31 Jan '21 19:43
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    Yeah, I am worried about that also. But If I am not mistaken, if you get convicted of a felony you are forbidden from holding any fed office.

    Was there a democracy in the 1930's Germany before Hitler arrived on the scene?
  4. Zugzwang
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    @sonhouse said
    @Duchess64
    Yeah, I am worried about that also. But If I am not mistaken, if you get convicted of a felony you are forbidden from holding any fed office.

    Was there a democracy in the 1930's Germany before Hitler arrived on the scene?
    "Was there a democracy in the 1930's Germany before Hitler arrived on the scene?"
    --Sonhouse

    Yes, but it was not very stable.

    Hitler was an avid reader; Donald Trump can barely read a teleprompter.
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    @sonhouse said
    I was thinking about the 70 mil Trump hypnotized base, how much would it go down if he is convicted in courts for actual crimes and not 'just' process crap.
    So how much would that 70 mil have to be reduced to so it would ensure Trump, even if he avoids prison, the lessoned base would be required to make Trump a REAL dustbin of history?

    Like 60 mil? 50? 40?

    What numbe ...[text shortened]... ecially the senate to grow back their missing balls and start honestly dealing with democrats again?
    Eliminating partisan hackery requires a lot lot more than getting rid of the cultists. I think you give Trump too much credit for congressional inaction, as if they weren't deadlocked before.

    Severe limitations on how campaigns are financed and how districts are drawn would go a long way. I think part of the reason they don't bother working with each other is they've divided districts in ways that congresspeople running for re-election in so called "safe" districts only worry about primary contenders from within their own party that challenge their voting records. So in many cases a Republican who is reaching across the aisle willing to negotiate on immigration reform would be primaried out of office for doing so in the next election cycle.
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    @sonhouse said
    I was thinking about the 70 mil Trump hypnotized base, how much would it go down if he is convicted in courts for actual crimes and not 'just' process crap.
    So how much would that 70 mil have to be reduced to so it would ensure Trump, even if he avoids prison, the lessoned base would be required to make Trump a REAL dustbin of history?

    Like 60 mil? 50? 40?

    What numbe ...[text shortened]... ecially the senate to grow back their missing balls and start honestly dealing with democrats again?
    Trump has so hypnotized his base, that even a felony conviction by a Rep. judge and Rep. jurors would be slagged off as 'political.' Even now, in the shadow of evident defeat, QAnon cultists are re-writing the 'plan', that Donald Trump's time wasn't now, it's still to come. That's how wacky his supporters are.
  7. Zugzwang
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    @moonbus said
    Trump has so hypnotized his base, that even a felony conviction by a Rep. judge and Rep. jurors would be slagged off as 'political.' Even now, in the shadow of evident defeat, QAnon cultists are re-writing the 'plan', that Donald Trump's time wasn't now, it's still to come. That's how wacky his supporters are.
    Martin Luther King Jr. spent time in jail. That did not make him less popular to his base.
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    @duchess64 said
    Martin Luther King Jr. spent time in jail. That did not make him less popular to his base.
    As I have said for over a year , my opinion, no one will go to jail. Did you see yesterday, Kevin Clinesmith , FBI guy, pleaded GUILTY to the crime of doctoring , altering Trump Russia Probe email. It is a crime. After the judge let him go, yesterday, he went and had beers with his buddies.
    Pretty much a given that that horrible mess is over and, that there is not any entity to bring any action against anyone which may result in jail time. I would say that even if the Repubs were still in charge.
    No jail time for Trump. If I am wrong, I will go have a beer with Sonhouse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    @sonhouse said
    @Duchess64
    Yeah, I am worried about that also. But If I am not mistaken, if you get convicted of a felony you are forbidden from holding any fed office.

    Was there a democracy in the 1930's Germany before Hitler arrived on the scene?
    You are mistaken:
    https://www.factcheck.org/2008/11/felons-in-office/
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    @averagejoe1 said
    As I have said for over a year , my opinion, no one will go to jail. Did you see yesterday, Kevin Clinesmith , FBI guy, pleaded GUILTY to the crime of doctoring , altering Trump Russia Probe email. It is a crime. After the judge let him go, yesterday, he went and had beers with his buddies.
    Pretty much a given that that horrible mess is over and, that there is not ...[text shortened]... rge.
    No jail time for Trump. If I am wrong, I will go have a beer with Sonhouse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    O. J. Simpson was acquitted of murder. Does that make him innocent in Averagejoe1's eyes?
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    @averagejoe1 said
    As I have said for over a year , my opinion, no one will go to jail. Did you see yesterday, Kevin Clinesmith , FBI guy, pleaded GUILTY to the crime of doctoring , altering Trump Russia Probe email. It is a crime. After the judge let him go, yesterday, he went and had beers with his buddies.
    Pretty much a given that that horrible mess is over and, that there is not ...[text shortened]... rge.
    No jail time for Trump. If I am wrong, I will go have a beer with Sonhouse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Your going to be a pretty odd couple with sonhouse tied to a bar stool.
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    @kevcvs57
    I am a cheap drunk🙂 2 beers and I would HAVE to be tied to the bar stool🙂

    I wonder what happens to the cult base if Trump besides actually going to prison, loses all his toys, would THAT upset his hypnotized base?
    Or would they just compare him to Nelson Mandela?
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    @duchess64 said
    O. J. Simpson was acquitted of murder. Does that make him innocent in Averagejoe1's eyes?
    No. Don’t get your point as it might relate to this issue. The Kleinsmith guy admitted guilt. I guess that means, to prove my point, that if Trump is guilty, and he may well be, I don’t know, how in the world can they put him in jail if they didn’t put Kleinsmith, admitted criminal, injail , and,say, Hillary in jail?
    For the record, I am 100% that O.J. Simpson , ust because of his actions over the last 30 years, killed those two people, with help. Hey did they ever figure out where he was going when he was going down the expressway. What, was he going to see his mother,? To get the police having discovered the murderfound his wife dead?
    You know, with the liberals in power, not only will people stop getting convicted and thrown in jail, you folks are going to empty the jails of criminals. You know I’m right.
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    @sonhouse said
    @kevcvs57
    I am a cheap drunk🙂 2 beers and I would HAVE to be tied to the bar stool🙂

    I wonder what happens to the cult base if Trump besides actually going to prison, loses all his toys, would THAT upset his hypnotized base?
    Or would they just compare him to Nelson Mandela?
    They would be upset. He was the last bulwark between freedom and socialism. If you were anti-socialist, you would be upset too. He was the last guy. There will be no others.

    Sonhouse, fair warning, I won’t be coming alone! I Will need a bulwark between you and me! The one of us that pays the least federal income taxes should pick up the tab. If. Suzianne tags along, I might bring maybe one more person for cover.
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    01 Feb '21 16:38
    @AverageJoe1
    Yeah, those CRETINS in jail for 40 years for having a single joint on their person, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?

    Let's INCREASE their jail time to SIXTY YEARS, the bastards.
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