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At the core of our worldview is the greatest thing we seek: being treated equally, so
that there is no one above another for favorable outcomes, or is that now an
anathema due to identity politics? If we prioritize identity over equal outcomes due to
to equal treatment, then we have built favoritism and inequality into our systems
by our show of favoritism.

If we suspend equal treatment under the law, then we have some who can break
it and get a pass, while those who cannot are held accountable. Our constraints of
law is either applied equally or are biased, protecting some over others. It may
even start to look like the guilty are protected over the victims.

If we give preferential treatment to some, we penalize others for the benefit of
those favored. If we include identity politics, we create multiple layers of unequal
treatment compared to equal treatment for all.

Constraints on human behavior are at the heart of this, our notions of fair play in
how we define fair play. Our constraints define who we are and how we view the
world, a nation is defined by its borders; remove those, and you lose the nation. A
nation is also defined by its constraints of it's own laws, ignore those, you lose the
nation it then becomes anarchy, where everyone does what is right in their own
eyes, making the country completely unsafe as all restraints have been done away
with.


@KellyJay
Part of my devotions today:

From ESV Proverbs 20

Do not say, “I will repay evil”; wait for the Lord, and he will deliver you. Unequal weights are an abomination to the Lord, and false scales are not good. A man's steps are from the Lord; how then can man understand his way? It is a snare to say rashly, “It is holy,” and to reflect only after making vows.


@KellyJay said
@KellyJay
Part of my devotions today:

From ESV Proverbs 20

Do not say, “I will repay evil”; wait for the Lord, and he will deliver you. Unequal weights are an abomination to the Lord, and false scales are not good. A man's steps are from the Lord; how then can man understand his way? It is a snare to say rashly, “It is holy,” and to reflect only after making vows.
Should this have been in the Spirituality Forum? I don't really see anything to debate about my friend.

-VR


@Very-Rusty said
Should this have been in the Spirituality Forum? I don't really see anything to debate about my friend.

-VR
It is the law and borders that concern me, and how they are both being called out as flawed. What connected the proverb in my eyes was the unequal weights, which would be a cheat to get over. I see that as what happens when we put our thumb on the scales of justice to favor one over another as well. Thank you for your thoughts.


@KellyJay said
It is the law and borders that concern me, and how they are both being called out as flawed. What connected the proverb in my eyes was the unequal weights, which would be a cheat to get over. I see that as what happens when we put our thumb on the scales of justice to favor one over another as well. Thank you for your thoughts.
@KellyJay,

Ok, I admit I completely missed the point you were making.

-VR


@Very-Rusty said
@KellyJay,

Ok, I admit I completely missed the point you were making.

-VR
I am glad you spoke up, so I had to clarify.


@Very-Rusty said
Should this have been in the Spirituality Forum? I don't really see anything to debate about my friend.

-VR
I think I will move it there too, when I get home.


@KellyJay said
At the core of our worldview is the greatest thing we seek: being treated equally, so
that there is no one above another for favorable outcomes, or is that now an
anathema due to identity politics? If we prioritize identity over equal outcomes due to
to equal treatment, then we have built favoritism and inequality into our systems
by our show of favoritism.

If we su ...[text shortened]... n their own
eyes, making the country completely unsafe as all restraints have been done away
with.
More apologists.


Some would call this "aiding and abetting".


@Suzianne said
More apologists.


Some would call this "aiding and abetting".
????


@KellyJay said
It is the law and borders that concern me, and how they are both being called out as flawed. What connected the proverb in my eyes was the unequal weights, which would be a cheat to get over. I see that as what happens when we put our thumb on the scales of justice to favor one over another as well. Thank you for your thoughts.
Speaking of the border, immigration enforcement is thoroughly motivated by unequal treatment due to identity politics. Mestizos are being illegally punished with no due process while Trump begs for white people to immigrate.


@AThousandYoung said
Speaking of the border, immigration enforcement is thoroughly motivated by unequal treatment due to identity politics. Mestizos are being illegally punished with no due process while Trump begs for white people to immigrate.
Hate



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Do you know where those countries are that don’t have borders?


@KellyJay said
At the core of our worldview is the greatest thing we seek: being treated equally, so
that there is no one above another for favorable outcomes, or is that now an
anathema due to identity politics? If we prioritize identity over equal outcomes due to
to equal treatment, then we have built favoritism and inequality into our systems
by our show of favoritism.

If we su ...[text shortened]... n their own
eyes, making the country completely unsafe as all restraints have been done away
with.
this is wonderful and moving, such worthy sentiments , something worth posting on one's facebook wall right below a "I voted for Trump, wooohooo, america number 1, fuk immigrants, minorities, women, the poor and all the brown people we bomb"


@Very-Rusty said
Should this have been in the Spirituality Forum? I don't really see anything to debate about my friend.

-VR
we can debate if you think he understands the hypocrisy of someone posting that inspirational wall of text after having voted for Trump