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@mike69 said
Yes where one place ends and another begins.
The Republic of Biafra comprised over 29,848 square miles (77,310 km2) of land, with terrestrial borders shared with Nigeria to the north and west, and with Cameroon to the east. Its coast is on the Gulf of Guinea of the South Atlantic Ocean in the south.
Nations are not places. The Republic of Biafra had borders because it was a State located in a particular country. A person did not have to be in that area to be part of the Biafran Nation any more than a Jew has to live in Israel to be part of the Jewish Nation.

https://www.ajc.org/news/who-are-the-jews

The Jewish People are an ethno-religious group and nation originating in the Land of Israel, which is the current location of the State of Israel. Jews lived under Jewish self-rule in the Land of Israel off and on for many centuries in ancient times. However, as various empires conquered the land, they engaged in mass expulsions of Jewish residents, the final and most comprehensive of which was carried out by the Roman Empire in 70 CE. While a small number of Jews always remained in the Land of Israel, as a result of these expulsions from the Land of Israel, Jews settled throughout the Middle East, Northern Africa, Asia, and Europe. In later centuries, they made their way in significant numbers to North and South America as well. These communities of Jews outside of the Land of Israel are known as the Jewish Diaspora. From the Middle Ages until the mid-twentieth century, Jews were periodically expelled from some of these places in the diaspora as well. Until there was a State of Israel, such Jews often had no place to go.

Despite being scattered throughout the world, Jews remained, and continue to remain, connected to one another and to the Land of Israel through shared history, liturgy, customs, religious practices, literature, and familial ties. Jews also share a common language of Hebrew, which through most of history was only used for prayer, Bible study, and rabbinic discourse. Today, Hebrew is the national language of the modern State of Israel, which was founded in 1948. Although few diaspora Jews are fluent in Hebrew, Jewish educational institutions throughout the Jewish Diaspora continue to teach it as a modern spoken and written language as well as a sacred tongue.

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@AverageJoe1 said
As you suggest a 'world of nirvana', how do you account for that old aspect of People Who Work Harder That Others?

Did the romulusromanian poster just mention Trump?
In no way are the very people who work harder anything like you.

Just in case you haven't noticed, Mexicans are some of the hardest working people in the world. Are you hearing me? Not white people. White people are pussies at work compared to Mexicans.

What's your excuse for why they haven't gotten ahead?

Some BS like "they don't wanna work"?

Simple racism, you fool.

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@AThousandYoung said
Nations are not places. The Republic of Biafra had borders because it was a State located in a particular country. A person did not have to be in that area to be part of the Biafran Nation any more than a Jew has to live in Israel to be part of the Jewish Nation.

https://www.ajc.org/news/who-are-the-jews

The Jewish People are an ethno-religious gr ...[text shortened]... ora continue to teach it as a modern spoken and written language as well as a sacred tongue.
I don’t have to be in the US to still be an American but at some point there are still borders to the place I’m from.

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@Suzianne said
In no way are the very people who work harder anything like you.

Just in case you haven't noticed, Mexicans are some of the hardest working people in the world. Are you hearing me? Not white people. White people are pussies at work compared to Mexicans.

What's your excuse for why they haven't gotten ahead?

Some BS like "they don't wanna work"?

Simple racism, you fool.
Nice post, but no I didn’t alert it, what good would it do? Racist comment again, some are, some are extremely lazy just like anyone else. More so with people in your party look at all of them in the streets rioting daily taking handouts.

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@mike69 said
I don’t have to be in the US to still be an American but at some point there are still borders to the place I’m from.
The USA is different. It's a "civic nation" not a natural nation. The Founders rejected defining this country by ethnicity. To the extent that America has national characteristics, they are the characteristics of the Anglo-Saxons. English language, favoritism for northern European phenotypes, Protestantism, a naval emphasis in warfare, etc.

The natural nations of North America are known as the First Nations.


@AThousandYoung said
The USA is different. It's a "civic nation" not a natural nation. The Founders rejected defining this country by ethnicity. To the extent that America has national characteristics, they are the characteristics of the Anglo-Saxons. English language, favoritism for northern European phenotypes, Protestantism, a naval emphasis in warfare, etc.

The natural nations of North America are known as the First Nations.
Is this place where their at part of the US, or is there a border somewhere?


@mike69 said
Is this place where their at part of the US, or is there a border somewhere?
What do you mean by "this place"? Nations are not places.

If you are asking about the ancestral homelands that these nations are indigenous to then they are mostly in the USA, Canada or Mexico. The political borders are not the same as the borders of the ancestral homelands.

If the USA ever gets sloppy, indigenous nationalism could be a huge problem for this Civic State. Unfortunately the USA has thoroughly beaten those people into submission and this doesn't look like it's going to change any time soon.


These are the approximate homelands of the indigenous people of North America (apparently only Canada uses the phrase First Nations):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas#/media/File:North_American_cultural_areas.png

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@AThousandYoung said
What do you mean by "this place"? Nations are not places.

If you are asking about the ancestral homelands that these nations are indigenous to then they are mostly in the USA, Canada or Mexico. The political borders are not the same as the borders of the ancestral homelands.

If the USA ever gets sloppy, indigenous nationalism could be a huge problem for this Civ ...[text shortened]... y beaten those people into submission and this doesn't look like it's going to change any time soon.
So you’re comparing what was said about borders to just where people are from or a part of?


@mike69 said
So you’re comparing what was said about borders to just where people are from or a part of?
"What was said about borders" was this:

a nation is defined by its borders; remove those, and you lose the nation.


I wasn't the one who brought nations into this discussion. KellyJay did. I was just explaining how the above quoted comment is nonsensical. A nation is not defined by borders and you cannot destroy a nation by occupying it's homeland. If that were possible Jews would no longer exist.


In the Bible, ancestral homelands are called "the inheritance of the nations". Even in the Bible nations and the lands they occupy are differentiated. E.g.

Deuteronomy 32:8

When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of men, he fixed the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God


@AThousandYoung said
"What was said about borders" was this:

a nation is defined by its borders; remove those, and you lose the nation.


I wasn't the one who brought nations into this discussion. KellyJay did. I was just explaining how the above quoted comment is nonsensical. A nation is not defined by borders and you cannot destroy a nation by occupying it's homeland. If that were possible Jews would no longer exist.
So it was clearly not being used in the way you are. Is the US a nation?


Merriam-Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com › dictionary › nation
a community of people composed of one or more nationalities and possessing a more or less defined territory and government


@mike69 said
So it was clearly not being used in the way you are. Is the US a nation?


Merriam-Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com › dictionary › nation
a community of people composed of one or more nationalities and possessing a more or less defined territory and government
A nation composed of multiple nationalities? What does that mean? One nation made of more than one nation? Makes no sense. In this case "nation" is being used as a synonym for "State".

That's like defining a Coke as "any sweet carbonated soda drink". Yes some people do use the word like that but it's still wrong.


@AThousandYoung said
A nation composed of multiple nationalities? What does that mean? One nation made of more than one nation? Makes no sense. In this case "nation" is being used as a synonym for "State".

That's like defining a Coke as "any sweet carbonated soda drink". Yes some people do use the word like that but it's still wrong.
and possessing a more or less defined territory and government. Actually it can go both ways depending on structure.


@mike69 said
So it was clearly not being used in the way you are. Is the US a nation?


Merriam-Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com › dictionary › nation
a community of people composed of one or more nationalities and possessing a more or less defined territory and government
The USA is not a nation, no. It's a so-called civic nation-State.

It has borders because it's a State.