@metal-brain saidOf course, it's an opinion, but unlike yours, AJ's and Mott's, it's an opinion based on historical evidence and legal research.
Has been used is not the same as has to be used. You cannot prove anything because you have nothing. Even your quotes don't prove what you claim. It isn't just me. You cannot prove it to anyone. That is why you are giving up. You have nothing but opinions.
None of you have presented a single shred of evidence to the contrary.
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@no1marauder saidAn opinion based on historical evidence and legal research is still an opinion unless you can prove it is more than an opinion. You cannot and it is not my burden of proof to prove a negative when you made the claim, not me. However, I did prove it wrong with this:
Of course, it's an opinion, but unlike yours, AJ's and Mott's, it's an opinion based on historical evidence and legal research.
None of you have presented a single shred of evidence to the contrary.
"The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."
It does not say "when". Your assertion that it has to be while in office is not based on any wording in the constitution. You just made it up based on an assumption, nothing written in the constitution.
@metal-brain saidI have no idea what an idiot like you means by "prove". The dictionary says it is to: "To establish the truth or validity of (something) by the presentation of argument or evidence". https://www.thefreedictionary.com/prove
An opinion based on historical evidence and legal research is still an opinion unless you can prove it is more than an opinion. You cannot and it is not my burden of proof to prove a negative when you made the claim, not me.
That is exactly what I have done, the fact that you can't present anything that rebuts my argument and evidence strongly suggests you have nothing that questions its truth and validity.
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@metal-brain saidNo, you didn't. I showed that "other High Crimes and Misdemeanors" means misconduct in the office according to the understanding of those who wrote the Constitution and of 236 years of practice. That's what the evidence shows, not any "assumption".
An opinion based on historical evidence and legal research is still an opinion unless you can prove it is more than an opinion. You cannot and it is not my burden of proof to prove a negative when you made the claim, not me. However, I did prove it wrong with this:
"The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office ...[text shortened]... n the constitution. You just made it up based on an assumption, nothing written in the constitution.
@no1marauder saidSTOP LYING!
I have no idea what an idiot like you means by "prove". The dictionary says it is to: "To establish the truth or validity of (something) by the presentation of argument or evidence". https://www.thefreedictionary.com/prove
That is exactly what I have done, the fact that you can't present anything that rebuts my argument and evidence strongly suggests you have nothing that questions its truth and validity.
Your opinion is not a fact. You need to prove it by a direct quote from the constitution. You never did that. Not even close.
@metal-brain saidWhy do you morons immediately start with the ridiculous accusations of "you're lying" when you are doing poorly in an argument?
STOP LYING!
Your opinion is not a fact. You need to prove it by a direct quote from the constitution. You never did that. Not even close.
No, a "direct quote" from the Constitution isn't needed; they used a term i.e. High Crimes and Misdemeanors that had a fixed meaning. That an idiot like you doesn't know what that was (and is) wasn't their problem. There are many terms in the Constitution that are not defined that the Framers used based on the understood meaning of the term.
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@no1marauder said😂 damn what an idiot
Why do you morons immediately start with the ridiculous accusations of "you're lying" when you are doing poorly in an argument?
No, a "direct quote" from the Constitution isn't needed; they used a term i.e. High Crimes and Misdemeanors that had a fixed meaning. That an idiot like you doesn't know what that was (and is) wasn't their problem. There are many terms in the Constitution that are not defined that the Framers used based on the understood meaning of the term.
I suppose you can tell all us what that “ fixed meaning” is 🙄
@metal-brain saidHey halfwit if the majority got to decide the presidency Trump would never have set one stinking foot in the White House.
Once again, you want to prevent the majority from deciding.
That is a departure from democracy.
A trump supporter showing concern for US democracy is like a serial rapist wearing a women’s liberation badge. Not even Trump has the gall to do that.
@no1marauder saidIll make it easy for you, show some evidence the framers put a time frame on committing the crimes such as biden has done.
I'll make it easy for you and the others; show some evidence that the Framers intended officials to be impeached and removed from an office for conduct that occurred before they took that office.
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@mott-the-hoople saidI already did; "other High Crimes and Misdemeanors" meant misconduct in the office for which impeachment and eventual removal was sought.
Ill make it easy for you, show some evidence the framers put a time frame on committing the crimes such as biden has done.
No President has been impeached for conduct before ascending to the Presidency in the 236 years since the Constitution was ratified.
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@no1marauder saidno president has been impeached before after leaving office either…but…always a first time ehh?
I already did; "other High Crimes and Misdemeanors" meant misconduct in the office for which impeachment and eventual removal was sought.
No President has been impeached for conduct before ascending to the Presidency in the 236 years since the Constitution was ratified.
You trying to shytweasel the constitution now 😂
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@kevcvs57 saidWhich means Biden would have been elected by what is referred to as 'mob rule'.
if the majority got to decide the presidency Trump would never have set one stinking foot in the White House.
This is a fact.
Please come out on this post and tell us that, yes, you would have been in favor of mob rule.
Of course,, I have proven that you are, but you will not admit it.
@mott-the-hoople saidTrump was impeached before leaving office as already has been shown.
no president has been impeached before after leaving office either…but…always a first time ehh?
You trying to shytweasel the constitution now 😂
And there is the Belknap precedent for holding a trial after an official leaves office.
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@averagejoe1 saidYou would prefer what(?) instead of a democracy?
Which means Biden would have been elected by what is referred to as 'mob rule'.
This is a fact.
Please come out on this post and tell us that, yes, you would have been in favor of mob rule.
Of course,, I have proven that you are, but you will not admit it.
What is your problem with the People actually having a primary say in how their country is run?