Biden's statement is here: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/08/14/statement-by-president-joe-biden-on-afghanistan/
"Over our country’s 20 years at war in Afghanistan, America has sent its finest young men and women, invested nearly $1 trillion dollars, trained over 300,000 Afghan soldiers and police, equipped them with state-of-the-art military equipment, and maintained their air force as part of the longest war in U.S. history. One more year, or five more years, of U.S. military presence would not have made a difference if the Afghan military cannot or will not hold its own country. And an endless American presence in the middle of another country’s civil conflict was not acceptable to me."
@no1marauder saidI am happy for shutting the conflict down, its the callus way biden is doing it. Just abandoning our people and Afghans that were on our side. He actually “asked” for Kabul to be spared…are you kidding me, Trump used force, the only thing these jihadist understand.
Biden's statement is here: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/08/14/statement-by-president-joe-biden-on-afghanistan/
"Over our country’s 20 years at war in Afghanistan, America has sent its finest young men and women, invested nearly $1 trillion dollars, trained over 300,000 Afghan soldiers and police, equipped them with state-of-the-art ...[text shortened]... dless American presence in the middle of another country’s civil conflict was not acceptable to me."
@mott-the-hoople saidHe "asked" for no such thing: "Fourth, we have conveyed to the Taliban representatives in Doha, via our Combatant Commander, that any action on their part on the ground in Afghanistan, that puts U.S. personnel or our mission at risk there, will be met with a swift and strong U.S. military response."
I am happy for shutting the conflict down, its the callus way biden is doing it. Just abandoning our people and Afghans that were on our side. He actually “asked” for Kabul to be spared…are you kidding me, Trump used force, the only thing these jihadist understand.
What "force" did Trump use that GW and Obama didn't in Afghanistan?
Why are you obviously and contradictorily lying? You say Biden is "abandoning our people and Afghans that were on our side" at the same time you criticize him for sending in troops to safely evacuate them.
@no1marauder saidread it for your self…
He "asked" for no such thing: "Fourth, we have conveyed to the Taliban representatives in Doha, via our Combatant Commander, that any action on their part on the ground in Afghanistan, that puts U.S. personnel or our mission at risk there, will be met with a swift and strong U.S. military response."
What "force" did Trump use that GW and Obama didn't in Afghanistan?
...[text shortened]... were on our side" at the same time you criticize him for sending in troops to safely evacuate them.
“ U.S. Asks Taliban to Spare Its Embassy in Coming Fight for Kabul”
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/12/us/politics/taliban-afghanistan-us-embassy.html
Trump had this withdrawal on a peaceful tract with leas troops than is there now. Biden is a big fat nothing and the other nations know it. china and russia are playing with him hacking our systems, shutting things down. biden ASKS russia to not attack certain things…wtf?
https://www.reuters.com/technology/biden-tells-putin-certain-cyber-attacks-should-be-off-limits-2021-06-16/
we need a man with balls to stand up for us, not a idiot that runs to his basement, yes he is in his basement as this chaos is ongoing.
@mott-the-hoople saidNYT is behind a wall for me. I don't take newspaper headlines at face value when I have someone's actual words.
read it for your self…
“ U.S. Asks Taliban to Spare Its Embassy in Coming Fight for Kabul”
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/12/us/politics/taliban-afghanistan-us-embassy.html
Trump had this withdrawal on a peaceful tract with leas troops than is there now. Biden is a big fat nothing and the other nations know it. china and russia are playing with him hacking our ...[text shortened]... p for us, not a idiot that runs to his basement, yes he is in his basement as this chaos is ongoing.
Actually: "The panel of experts painted a grim picture of the violence in Afghanistan, which had been expected to decrease in 2020 but instead soared to the highest level ever recorded by the United Nations in the country — more than 25,000 incidents, a 10% increase over 2019."
https://apnews.com/article/taliban-united-nations-middle-east-d8b4d18c746b3883ce063b8fc840056c#:~:text=The%20U.N.,-experts%2C%20who%20monitor&text=The%20panel%20of%20experts%20painted,a%2010%25%20increase%20over%202019.
Trump certainly never asked the Russians to not hack us, so you have a point there.
Weren't you right wingers just complaining about him being on vacation as Afghanistan falls? I wish you'd get your story straight.
@no1marauder saidyou have reduced yourself to gibberish
NYT is behind a wall for me. I don't take newspaper headlines at face value when I have someone's actual words.
Actually: "The panel of experts painted a grim picture of the violence in Afghanistan, which had been expected to decrease in 2020 but instead soared to the highest level ever recorded by the United Nations in the country — more than 25,000 incidents, ...[text shortened]... complaining about him being on vacation as Afghanistan falls? I wish you'd get your story straight.
@mott-the-hoople saidShooting down the many false claims you have made in this thread isn't "gibberish".
you have reduced yourself to gibberish
@no1marauder saidthis is not shooting down claims…when shown in black and white you reply with this..,
Shooting down the many false claims you have made in this thread isn't "gibberish".
“ . I don't take newspaper headlines at face value when I have someone's actual words. ”
do you think you are fooling anyone?
@mott-the-hoople saidNo, my statement is a good guideline. The headline of a newspaper article is usually written by an editor rather than the writer of the piece and often misstates the material in the piece, often for sensationalist purposes. Since I can't read the article from your cite because of the NYT's paywall but I can read President Biden's statement warning the Taliban that attacks on our forces would be met with a military response, the data I have indicates not an "ask" but a "warning".
this is not shooting down claims…when shown in black and white you reply with this..,
“ . I don't take newspaper headlines at face value when I have someone's actual words. ”
do you think you are fooling anyone?
If this is an accurate copy of the article (https://bdnews24.com/world/2021/08/12/us-asks-taliban-to-spare-its-embassy-in-coming-fight-for-kabul) the headline is misleading; there's "negotiating" not "asking"(which you seem to interpret as "begging" ).
@no1marauder saidnothing misleading except you.
No, my statement is a good guideline. The headline of a newspaper article is usually written by an editor rather than the writer of the piece and often misstates the material in the piece, often for sensationalist purposes. Since I can't read the article from your cite because of the NYT's paywall but I can read President Biden's statement warning the Taliban that attacks ...[text shortened]... adline is misleading; there's "negotiating" not "asking"(which you seem to interpret as "begging" ).
@Mott-The-Hoople
You make me physically SICK. You have NOTHING to contribute to real society, ONLY in your having fun throwing monkey wrenches into ANYTHING democratic INCLUDING you not caring if we lose our democracy in this rush to judgement the repubs are doing right now to WAY limit black, brown, Asians, elderly, STOP THEM VOTING.
THIS IS DEMOCRACY?
Please don't EVEN go 'it is only about Voter ID to prevent fraud'.
Funny how that never was a problem before the Trump era. TWO CENTURIES of almost ZERO fraud but now Trump just SAID there was fraud so NATURALLY not thinking for yourself, you and the millions of OTHER idiots believing everything that ASSSWIPE EX POTUS says.
THAT is the problem.