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@metal-brain said
Imagine Russia invades the USA and occupies the country and some Americans work for the Russians as interpreters. Would you think of them as traitors or not?
Reality isn't as clear cut as that. The Taliban is not the government of Afghanistan.

Despite your racist views.


@suzianne said
Reality isn't as clear cut as that. The Taliban is not the government of Afghanistan.

Despite your racist views.
Remember when we were allies with the Taliban and were giving weapons to the Taliban to fight the USSR? Was the Taliban the government of Afghanistan then?

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@metal-brain said
Remember when we were allies with the Taliban and were giving weapons to the Taliban to fight the USSR? Was the Taliban the government of Afghanistan then?
That was a mistake.

Apparently, you encourage mistakes.

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@suzianne said
That was a mistake.

Apparently, you encourage mistakes.
Mistakes are not intentional. Arming the Taliban was deliberate.

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@Metal-Brain
Considering YOU are as close to traitor as we have here on RHP, I would not trust you with the time of day.

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@mott-the-hoople said
there were two factions in Afghanistan
There are many, many more factions in Afghanistan.
Even the Taliban itself is more an umbrella term for various factions than anything else.

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@shavixmir
You really think you are reaching that MOOT BRAIN?

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@metal-brain said
Imagine Russia invades the USA and occupies the country and some Americans work for the Russians as interpreters. Would you think of them as traitors or not?
You keep pretending that the Taliban represent Afghanistan as a whole but they don’t. The Taliban has always been a fundamentalist insurgent group who fight any government or regime that does not share its extreme version of Islam.
To pretend that the Taliban represent the Afghan people as a whole is just another of your lies and there will never be peace in that country until they are put.back in their box.
Odds on favourites to replace the US will be a Sino Russian coalition.


@metal-brain said
Remember when we were allies with the Taliban and were giving weapons to the Taliban to fight the USSR? Was the Taliban the government of Afghanistan then?
The Taliban didn't even exist until 1994. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-south-asia-11451718

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@shavixmir said
There are many, many more factions in Afghanistan.
Even the Taliban itself is more an umbrella term for various factions than anything else.
there are two controlling factions

https://www.rferl.org/a/taliban-government-islamic-state-who-controls-what-in-afghanistan-/30644646.html

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@kevcvs57 said
You keep pretending that the Taliban represent Afghanistan as a whole but they don’t. The Taliban has always been a fundamentalist insurgent group who fight any government or regime that does not share its extreme version of Islam.
To pretend that the Taliban represent the Afghan people as a whole is just another of your lies and there will never be peace in that country u ...[text shortened]... y are put.back in their box.
Odds on favourites to replace the US will be a Sino Russian coalition.
The Taliban controlled well over 3/4 of Afghanistan when the US invaded. They are not a mere "group" among many but the dominant force in Afghanistan. The collapse of the present US installed government in the face of them shows who has real power in the country. Who know who "represents the Afghan people" but the fact that the Taliban, even after 20 years of US occupation, were able to so quickly muster such overwhelming support makes it seem likely that a good portion of that country's People share their basic ideology.

Your prediction is absurd, China will accept and perhaps even recognize a Taliban government: https://www.reuters.com/world/china/taliban-advances-china-lays-groundwork-accept-an-awkward-reality-2021-08-14/

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@no1marauder said
The Taliban didn't even exist until 1994. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-south-asia-11451718
the ideology did exist. mujahideen/taliban… what does it matter?

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The bottom line is this: 3 Presidents kicked the can down the road, knowing that the US had accomplished little in Afghanistan but not wanting to face the political consequences of "losing" it. IF Biden continues his course of committing to a US withdrawal regardless of the results of the fighting, he should be commended for his courage in doing so. Americans do presently overwhelmingly support a withdrawal (https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/562215-poll-73-percent-support-us-withdrawal-from-afghanistan-steady) but right wing rabble rousing can be expected as the Taliban's military campaign becomes even more successful.

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@mott-the-hoople said
the ideology did exist. mujahideen/taliban… what does it matter?
It matters for accuracy. And the Taliban have a rather unique ideology though it is true it fits under what is generally called "radical Islam".

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@no1marauder said
The Taliban didn't even exist until 1994. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-south-asia-11451718
Okay, I forgot it was the mujahideen. My bad.

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