Biden signing executive order on abortion rights.

@mott-the-hoople said
the democratic way ehh? can you say DICTATOR?

No but I bet the fascist state legislators that bought these laws into effect can.
Your such an idiot that you actually think that a leader that expands and protects a citizens freedoms from the fascist legislators of any given state is the dictator rather than the state legislator scumbags that took those freedoms away in the first place.

@kellyjay said
Ripping the limbs off so s/he is aborted was the question.

They do not need to do anything like what you are describing and you know it, or have you been up all night watching your evangelical Nazi propaganda videos?
Clearly unless the US electorate gets of its ass they will find their necks under the boot of a fanatical religious minority if they aren’t already.

@sonhouse said
I imagine ZERO zombies will even dare to watch this order on TV right now and see the outrage in Biden's eyes, he mentioned that 10 yo girl the victim of rape FORCED to be taken to Indiana for her abortion.
Anyone against THAT is a fukking ASSSHOLE and that is a MILD description I would write here about those folks who care less about women's rights and the former right to privacy.

It didn’t take very long for the inhumanity of this disgusting attack on women’s rights to be observed in its full glory.

@no1marauder said
At least 40% (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5443340/) and perhaps as high as 2/3 of eggs fertilized at conception (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101003205930.htm) fail to develop successfully and "die" long before birth.

Do you have funerals for all of them in your church, KJ?

There are funerals and services for many of them. When parents meet for the
purpose of comforting one another for the loss of a child; some can show up who
lost a child while they were still in the womb in the group, their pain, and suffering
is not looked down on, or it is said to have not lost a child because theirs died in
the womb. They are mourning just as badly as those whose kids were born. Life
starts at conception; it can end at any point after that, but that doesn't mean it
didn't start; once it starts.

If no one ends it before birth, we get all of the babies smiles and laughter and the
rest of what we get as we grow up, ending that ends them regardless of the age,
early or late, when someone takes a life, a life is taken. Attempting to justify it by
saying they are not worth it, everyone would be better off if they die, can be
applied to anyone at any time.

Ending a life to solve a problem or desire early or late is still ending a life, just
because you cannot hear the screams when he or she is being dismembered, or
whatever method is used to kill them doesn't matter if they are being killed.

@kellyjay said
There are funerals and services for many of them. When parents meet for the
purpose of comforting one another for the loss of a child; some can show up who
lost a child while they were still in the womb in the group, their pain, and suffering
is not looked down on, or it is said to have not lost a child because theirs died in
the womb. They are mourning just as badly as ...[text shortened]... being dismembered, or
whatever method is used to kill them doesn't matter if they are being killed.

You've been pouring out this irrational, emotional claptrap here for decades.

All it really comes down to is you want your religious views forced on others by State penal laws.

@no1marauder said
You've been pouring out this irrational, emotional claptrap here for decades.

All it really comes down to is you want your religious views forced on others by State penal laws.

Apparently there are those like him who believe that the so called separation between church and state never existed in the minds of the Founders but was inserted to protect American ideals from foreign (read Catholic) religious influence. This perspective rejects the notion of an America as a secular humanist state but one founded firmly on Protestant Judeo-Christian principles.

@kellyjay said
There are funerals and services for many of them. When parents meet for the
purpose of comforting one another for the loss of a child; some can show up who
lost a child while they were still in the womb in the group, their pain, and suffering
is not looked down on, or it is said to have not lost a child because theirs died in
the womb. They are mourning just as badly as ...[text shortened]... being dismembered, or
whatever method is used to kill them doesn't matter if they are being killed.

Until now all those childhood smiles have come from babies that were wanted rather than foetuses that the carrier was forced to carry to term due to the political machinations of a delusional minority.
How many smiles do you think will come from the unwanted child born to a woman whose own instincts told her she was not ready for motherhood.
Can you not see through your own personal delusions concerning the nature of reality to the grotesque reality of a 10 yr old who was impregnated by brute force in a state that then forces that immature body to carry that foetus to term. It’s incredible to me that you do not have an inkling about the level of depravity your philosophy has dragged you to.

@kevcvs57 said
Until now all those childhood smiles have come from babies that were wanted rather than foetuses that the carrier was forced to carry to term due to the political machinations of a delusional minority.
How many smiles do you think will come from the unwanted child born to a woman whose own instincts told her she was not ready for motherhood.
Can you not see through your o ...[text shortened]... me that you do not have an inkling about the level of depravity your philosophy has dragged you to.

Forced to carry to term, seriously, that is what you call someone pregnant; you
know what causes that, right? I've not mentioned politics or my faith; simply that
when an abortion is done, a human life dies, not a positional life, but a life, the
whole goal is to kill him or her because the delusional masses don't care that
it is life, what they want is more important, period it is a right to rip a child apart
in the mother's womb. Many who even acknowledge it is a human life and still
do not care kill them anyway.

-Removed-

Killing someone for convenience or any other reason is doing just that killing
someone, there is nothing about taking an innocent life that runs contrary to my
faith and you bringing it up here not desired, go to the Spiritual forum if you
want to talk about how we can stand before God and be Pro-life or call the
right to end a child by abortion is somehow righteous.

@kmax87 said
Apparently there are those like him who believe that the so called separation between church and state never existed in the minds of the Founders but was inserted to protect American ideals from foreign (read Catholic) religious influence. This perspective rejects the notion of an America as a secular humanist state but one founded firmly on Protestant Judeo-Christian principles.

You think something we call wrong and based on religion should not be written
in the law of the land for everyone, stealing, murder, rape, do we need to have
those laws done away with because there are similarities in someone's religion?

I've been talking about life, if you want to talk about separation between church
and state that it is a different topic.

@sonhouse said
I imagine ZERO zombies will even dare to watch this order on TV right now and see the outrage in Biden's eyes, he mentioned that 10 yo girl the victim of rape FORCED to be taken to Indiana for her abortion.
Anyone against THAT is a fukking ASSSHOLE and that is a MILD description I would write here about those folks who care less about women's rights and the former right to privacy.

https://pjmedia.com/columns/paula-bolyard/2022/07/07/liz-warren-the-right-refuses-to-help-pregnant-people-also-liz-warren-shut-down-all-the-crisis-pregnancy-centers-n1611137

@kellyjay said
Forced to carry to term, seriously, that is what you call someone pregnant; you
know what causes that, right? I've not mentioned politics or my faith; simply that
when an abortion is done, a human life dies, not a positional life, but a life, the
whole goal is to kill him or her because the delusional masses don't care that
it is life, what they want is more important, p ...[text shortened]... mother's womb. Many who even acknowledge it is a human life and still
do not care kill them anyway.

Your disgusting lies about what a six week termination requires will leave no sane person in any doubt about the twisted religious dogma that is informing your debate.
“ Forced to carry to term, seriously, that is what you call someone pregnant; you
know what causes that, right?”
Yes it was the rape of a ten year old child that caused that foetus to be implanted in that 10 yr old womb, shame on you!
Until you right wing misogynistic theists finish your anti democratic Revolution the US is still a democracy based on rational thought and the will of the majority.
We will find in the next couple of election cycles whether the majority are ok living in a theocracy, if they are then you and the child rapists can have the happy smiling children that will ensue.

@kevcvs57 said
Your disgusting lies about what a six week termination requires will leave no sane person in any doubt about the twisted religious dogma that is informing your debate.
“ Forced to carry to term, seriously, that is what you call someone pregnant; you
know what causes that, right?”
Yes it was the rape of a ten year old child that caused that foetus to be implanted in that 1 ...[text shortened]... acy, if they are then you and the child rapists can have the happy smiling children that will ensue.

What lie have I said about six-week termination? The age of someone with a child
doesn't change the discussion about life in the womb. It is horrible that something
like that could happen to a ten-year-old; there is nothing I have said that diminishes
that. Your prejudice and hate of a political party don't add to the righteousness of
taking a life or justify it in any form or fashion; it is a side issue.