Biden to cancel $39B in student debt

@athousandyoung said

https://archive.org/stream/AtlasShrugged/atlas%20shrugged_djvu.txt

He had held a conference with the producers of copper, who had just been
garroted by a set of directives that would put them out of existence in
another year. He had had no advice to give them, no solution to offer; his
ingenuity, which had made him famous as the man who would always fin ...[text shortened]... ; he
should have known that this was just what a man like Francisco d'Anconia
would do—

What's your point here? that Atlas Shrugged is about the virtues of the boys in Washington making it illegal for people to mine copper?

Are you sure that's what Atlas Shrugged is about, you may have misunderstood.

@wajoma said
What's your point here? that Atlas Shrugged is about the virtues of the boys in Washington making it illegal for people to mine copper?

Are you sure that's what Atlas Shrugged is about, you may have misunderstood.

Francisco D'Anconia was the one making those deals with Washington...did you really miss that?

@athousandyoung said
Francisco D'Anconia was the one making those deals with Washington...did you really miss that?

And the point was to show everyone this is how it's done.

You're right, that's probably what Atlas Shrugged was about. Making deals with the boys in Washington, all this time, how many thousands of people got the wrong end of the stick. Atlas Shrugged is about how you get the goobermint to shut down competition. Could have just skipped the book and gone to cliffs notes.

@wajoma said
And the point was to show everyone this is how it's done.

You're right, that's probably what Atlas Shrugged was about. Making deals with the boys in Washington, all this time, how many thousands of people got the wrong end of the stick. Atlas Shrugged is about how you get the goobermint to shut down competition. Could have just skipped the book and gone to cliffs notes.

Knowing who the speaker is and how he operates (unearned income funding his plans, monopolies, working with pirates, defrauding investors, making deals with the government to shut out competition) really puts his pretentious speech into perspective.

@athousandyoung said
Knowing who the speaker is and how he operates (unearned income funding his plans, monopolies, working with pirates, defrauding investors, making deals with the government to shut out competition) really puts his pretentious speech into perspective.

Yes, the whole book is a how to. How to be a pirate, how to rip people off, how to get goobermint to do you're bidding, how to lie, how to cheat, how to make monopolies. Everything thousands of people got out of the book they've all been 180 degrees wrong.

You nailed it ATY, you're right.

@wajoma said
Yes, the whole book is a how to. How to be a pirate, how to rip people off, how to get goobermint to do you're bidding, how to lie, how to cheat, how to make monopolies. Everything thousands of people got out of the book they've all been 180 degrees wrong.

You nailed it ATY, you're right.

And that was just AS, when we look at The Fountainhead she was encouraging people to dynamite buildings out of spite, there's no way she could have written that by accident, and it's not in any kind of code, no subliminal trickery, she came right out and said it, there's no context to consider, it's not part of a storyline, it's straight out maliciousness, blow buildings up out of spite. Right there in black and white, terroristic man.

@wajoma said
To 'make money' is indeed a noble pursuit, to create value. You can see how the goobermint stinks it up.

Francisco's money speech:

https://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2002/08/franciscos-money-speech/

Does Wajoma really want to seriously discuss the quote, the character that made the statement and why. I doubt it.

@athousandyoung said
Does Wajoma really want to seriously discuss the quote, the character that made the statement and why. I doubt it.

No point wasting time on state worshippers any more than wasting time on the happy clapper god botherers.

In the case of discussing it with you, you are correct, your doubts are well founded.

Edit: Looking back at when and why I posted a link to Franciscos money speech it was relevant to the topic, i.e. making money. Franciscos money speech is excellent for taking a step back and thinking about what money is. ATY when challenged went off about actually making physical bits of paper and an entirely different character in an entirely different book.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Ad hominem (Latin for 'to the person' ), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a term that refers to several types of arguments, most of which are fallacious. Typically this term refers to a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself. This avoids genuine debate by creating a diversion to some irrelevant but often highly charged issue.

^^^^^^

@wajoma said
To 'make money' is indeed a noble pursuit, to create value. You can see how the goobermint stinks it up.

Francisco's money speech:

https://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2002/08/franciscos-money-speech/

...there's no way she could have written that by accident, and it's not in any kind of code, no subliminal trickery, she came right out and said it, there's no context to consider, it's not part of a storyline...

@athousandyoung said
...there's no way she could have written that by accident, and it's not in any kind of code, no subliminal trickery, she came right out and said it, there's no context to consider, it's not part of a storyline...

You're right.

@athousandyoung said

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Ad hominem (Latin for 'to the person' ), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a term that refers to several types of arguments, most of which are fallacious. Typically this term refers to a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rathe ...[text shortened]... debate by creating a diversion to some irrelevant but often highly charged issue.

^^^^^^

haha 'genuine debate' that's what you think you've been doing. Some comedy had to come in the end.

@wajoma said
haha 'genuine debate' that's what you think you've been doing. Some comedy had to come in the end.

Although another funny one was about the fictional motor, the criticism being the fictional motor didn’t obey the laws of thermodynamic dynamic heat transfer or something. Guess Rand should have published the blue prints. If ATY had written it, it’d be more realistic a Milwaukee 9volt rechargeable battery motor 😆

@wajoma said
Although another funny one was about the fictional motor, the criticism being the fictional motor didn’t obey the laws of thermodynamic dynamic heat transfer or something. Guess Rand should have published the blue prints. If ATY had written it, it’d be more realistic a Milwaukee 9volt rechargeable battery motor 😆

The paycheck protection plan was non fiction. Written, passed, endorsed and promoted by ayn rand conservatives.

@wildgrass said
The paycheck protection plan was non fiction. Written, passed, endorsed and promoted by ayn rand conservatives.

That's not really true; the PPP was part of the CARES Act, passed unanimously in the Senate and by a voice vote in the House in March 2020 in response to the economic crisis caused by the COVID pandemic. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/27/us/politics/coronavirus-house-voting.html