@philokalia saidAbsent from my posts was any indication that anyone had acted "noble", so I'm not sure how to respond to something created wholly in your own mind.
I noticed this narrative first when a man thought to be a far right counter-protester (whether he was or not, I do not know) was being beaten badly at a BLM protest in London, and when another BLM protester carried him to safety, the story became about how noble BLM protesters are.
It's quite an interesting situation:
Yuo get stabbed at our protest, but we ...[text shortened]... .
So, you'd agree to not judge the Charlottesville protesters by the actions of James Fields?
What my post was suggesting was that it is far to early to assume that the stabbing was "politically motivated" as you knee jerk assumed and as the victim has alleged with little evidence to support his claim (and he obviously has an ideological axe to grind).
I'd say wait for more information.
@earl-of-trumps saidThat is patently false. Take a look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Hill_Autonomous_Zone#Shootings
I agree, it is a biased selection process
If a protester in CHOP is teargassed, OMG, it's all over MSM
Somebody in CHOP is shot and killed and, "Nothing to see here, folks. Move along..."
All the shooting incidents are discussed with links to various news agencies. While most are to the Seattle Times and KOMO and KIRO, local TV stations, the following are all in the footnotes for published stories regarding the shootings:
Newsweek
The Daily Beast
Fox News
The New York Times
Associated Press
CNN
NBC News
And, of course, these are just the stories Wiki used in the article.
The idea that the media ignored the shootings is typical right wing nonsense.
@no1marauder saidI do generally support the idea of cooler heads prevailing.
Absent from my posts was any indication that anyone had acted "noble", so I'm not sure how to respond to something created wholly in your own mind.
What my post was suggesting was that it is far to early to assume that the stabbing was "politically motivated" as you knee jerk assumed and as the victim has alleged with little evidence to support his claim (and he obviously has an ideological axe to grind).
I'd say wait for more information.
However, what we do know is that this was a conservative reporter covering BLM & Antifa riots, and he was stabbed by someone that a lot of people are identifying as a part of Antifa who has apparently no personal reason for stabbing the guy.
https://wikispro.com/blake-david-hampe-video/
I have not seen concrete evidence emerge that he is part of Antifa groups, but it is important to remember that Antifa exists in the same way that the Alt Right exists: it's not a group or organization or anything. It's just a thing an "idea."
Nobody & everybody can be part of it.
So, whatever that means.
@no1marauder saidThe argument would actually be that it is covered far less than if there had been any similar events on the right.
That is patently false. Take a look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Hill_Autonomous_Zone#Shootings
All the shooting incidents are discussed with links to various news agencies. While most are to the Seattle Times and KOMO and KIRO, local TV stations, the following are all in the footnotes for published stories regarding the shootings:
Newsweek
The Daily ...[text shortened]... sed in the article.
The idea that the media ignored the shootings is typical right wing nonsense.
@no1marauder saidI wouldn't call it nonsense, totally
That is patently false. Take a look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Hill_Autonomous_Zone#Shootings
All the shooting incidents are discussed with links to various news agencies. While most are to the Seattle Times and KOMO and KIRO, local TV stations, the following are all in the footnotes for published stories regarding the shootings:
Newsweek
The Daily ...[text shortened]... sed in the article.
The idea that the media ignored the shootings is typical right wing nonsense.
I have not seen such links show up in Drudge or Yahoo or Reuters.
The all important question, did they mention the color of the skin of the victims?
This is what it is all about, right? BLM
@philokalia said"A lot of people" in this case are right wing outlets offering no actual evidence the alleged stabber belonged to Antifa or any similar organization. The Portland Police have yet to make any such claim.
I do generally support the idea of cooler heads prevailing.
However, what we do know is that this was a conservative reporter covering BLM & Antifa riots, and he was stabbed by someone that a lot of people are identifying as a part of Antifa who has apparently no personal reason for stabbing the guy.
https://wikispro.com/blake-david-hampe-video/
I have not seen ...[text shortened]... It's just a thing an "idea."
Nobody & everybody can be part of it.
So, whatever that means.
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@no1marauder saidAntifa...? I'd actually be more suspicious of a lurker from white supremacist or some such group
"A lot of people" in this case are right wing outlets offering no actual evidence the alleged stabber belonged to Antifa or any similar organization. The Portland Police have yet to make any such claim.
@earl-of-trumps saidIt's really unusual for stories in reputable news outlets to mention the "race" of a victim unless there is some indication that racial bias or prejudice played a part in the motivation behind the crime.
I wouldn't call it nonsense, totally
I have not seen such links show up in Drudge or Yahoo or Reuters.
The all important question, did they mention the color of the skin of the victims?
This is what it is all about, right? BLM
So basically your complaint is that the story was covered but without the type of editorializing you desire i.e. "BLM is shooting black people".
@philokalia saidHave you any instances where the Federal agents have provided law and order?
While many are trying to have you believe that these are very peaceful protests and the presence of Federal agents to provide law and order is unnecessary,
@earl-of-trumps saidNews has it, my suspicions are wrong.
Antifa...? I'd actually be more suspicious of a lurker from white supremacist or some such group
It seems *so far*, the guy who stabbed the brother was a white antifa person.
He also did a stretch of time for child pornography.
When it is in print, I'll post it.
@earl-of-trumps saidA "white antifa person" according to whom?
News has it, my suspicions are wrong.
It seems *so far*, the guy who stabbed the brother was a white antifa person.
He also did a stretch of time for child pornography.
When it is in print, I'll post it.
@handyandy saidIt's all over various portions of the right wing blogosphere but even the ones which don't care much about journalistic standards like the Daily Caller, Breitbart, etc. etc. etc. haven't seen fit to make that claim.
A "white antifa person" according to whom?
The Portland Police haven't made any statement regarding Hampe's affiliations, if any, nor his criminal record, if any. Until they do, I'm skeptical.
Here's some info regarding the incident: https://heavy.com/news/2020/07/blake-hampe/
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@no1marauder
I heard it on radio news. I don't know the affiliate but I think it is ABC.
Anyway, as I said, when it hits print, I will post it, and I don't mean BLOG print,
I mean MSM print. I don't do blogs, right wing or any other.
PS: No1, this is from the first link out of the link you left:
NEWS
Report: Convicted Pedophile Anarchist Arrested for Stabbing Black Trump Supporter in Portland
@earl-of-trumps said(Shrug) There are many such quotes all over the right wing blogosphere. Not a single one has been verified.
@no1marauder
I heard it on radio news. I don't know the affiliate but I think it is ABC.
Anyway, as I said, when it hits print, I will post it, and I don't mean BLOG print,
I mean MSM print. I don't do blogs, right wing or any other.
PS: No1, this is from the first link out of the link you left:
NEWS
Report: Convicted Pedophile Anarchist Arrested for Stabbing Black Trump Supporter in Portland