Brexit and the end of the UK

kmax87

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16 Dec 19 04:09

Shallow Blue

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19 Dec 19 21:00

@kmax87 said
England Scotland and Wales, never were 3 separate countries at any time ever?

Are not now, is the point.

There's only one country - England - and three domestic colonies - Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

And the natives are getting restless.

whodey

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19 Dec 19 21:00

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@kmax87 said
More doom and gloom on the way, or will the United Kingdom stand?

We're all gonna die!!!!!

kmax87

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20 Dec 19 00:17

@shallow-blue said
And the natives are getting restless.

In terms of doing the unexpected thing the cat is firmly out of the bag. People apparently can be led to vote against their self interest. Any outcome is possible.

Shallow Blue

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20 Dec 19 18:33

@kmax87 said
People apparently can be led to vote against their self interest.

Myeah... but then, that news is even older than the French Revolution. (Wasn't the English one earlier? I do believe it was.)

Grandmaster bater

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20 Dec 19 19:16

@kmax87 said
England Scotland and Wales, never were 3 separate countries at any time ever?

The act of union was 1707 so before that they were separate countries. If you are saying that they are part of the same Island that's like saying mainland Europe is all France or Germany.

Grandmaster bater

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20 Dec 19 19:21

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In terms of Scotland. They want independence from the UK so that they can be an independent sovereign nation and then join the EU to be ruled by them...…….

Not sure that they would just be able to join the EU anyway as they may not want another mouth to feed.

kmax87

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21 Dec 19 06:37

@shallow-blue said
Myeah... but then, that news is even older than the French Revolution. (Wasn't the English one earlier? I do believe it was.)

So why is it so hard to imagine Scexit?

kmax87

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21 Dec 19 06:43

@grandmaster-bater said
The act of union was 1707 so before that they were separate countries. If you are saying that they are part of the same Island that's like saying mainland Europe is all France or Germany.

All I tried to do was suggest that if Brexit led to a firmer push for Scottish Independence then Brexit may well be the trigger to unwind the UK and devolve it back into its constituent parts.

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21 Dec 19 10:43

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Shallow Blue

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21 Dec 19 12:11

@kmax87 said
So why is it so hard to imagine Scexit?

Because Scots may well vote for it, but England won't let its province leave the country.

kmax87

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21 Dec 19 12:22

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This from Wiki
"A Welsh Political Barometer poll, conducted for ITV-Cymru Wales and Cardiff University's Wales Governance Centre from 30 June to 4 July 2016, showed support for Welsh independence had increased following the Brexit vote. Responding to the question “And please imagine a scenario where the rest of the UK left the European Union but Wales could remain a member of the European Union if it became an independent country. If a referendum was then held in Wales about becoming an independent country and this was the question, how would you vote? Should Wales be an independent country?” the results were: Yes: 28%, No: 53% Would Not Vote/Don't Know: 20%. Removing non-committed voters, 35% of those polled would vote for independence"

I would not have thought that much were in favor to be honest. What will really shake the apple cart is the death of her Royal Highness Ell. Who knows then who/what, people might want to cling to.

diver