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There must be something, if there is something to believe with. (To say nothing of the nature of existence, just that something capable of believing exists)

And that's the truth.

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Originally posted by Wajoma
There must be something, if there is something to believe with. (To say nothing of the nature of existence, just that something capable of believing exists)

And that's the truth.
The only thing that you know for certain that exists is the inside of your mind.

CRRAAZZY!! 🙄😲

But what are you saying "truth" is?

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Originally posted by wedgehead2
The only thing that you know for certain that exists is the inside of your mind.

CRRAAZZY!! 🙄😲

But what are you saying "truth" is?
Well it's a start. Existence exists.

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Originally posted by Wajoma
Well it's a start. Existence exists.
Something "real" exists- the thinking part of you- although you as a physical entity might not.
But I don't think that it is possible for humans to determine whether the world in which we think we live exists.
"I think therefore I am".
Only you know that the inside of your mind exists- everything else is debatable.

This is a totally pointless debate as it is all a matter of belief rather than rationality- it can be argued either way. 🙄😲

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No it is not pointless, the point ;^) is that we need a starting point, and that is:

Existence exists.

Can you seriously debate this either way? Do you deny that there is something?

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Originally posted by Wajoma
No it is not pointless, the point ;^) is that we need a starting point, and that is:

Existence exists.

Can you seriously debate this either way? Do you deny that there is something?
I have alreay that the "something" you refer to is your thought processes. Existence of your thought proccesses is undebatable- the existence of physical existence is.

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Originally posted by wedgehead2
I have alreay that the "something" you refer to is your thought processes. Existence of your thought proccesses is undebatable- the existence of physical existence is.
There must be something physical even for thought processes, mush, liquids, electrical impulses, a brain....something.

Do you deny this?

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Originally posted by wedgehead2
Where do you get your "facts" from? I write based on a belief that people in theis country are willing but unable to find work, be they for skills or geographical reasons. You are the one who appear to be ignorant of the facts. The whole "brain drain" issue is of skilled proffessionals coming form the eastern european countries, not unskilled workers. The ...[text shortened]... i'd rarther have someone living off UB than being forced to work as a virtual slave.uit
The level of gov. handouts must always be substantially lower than the lowest level of legally paid jobs but even so thousands of idlers prefer to accept them rather than do any work, leaving immigrants to
take up the available jobs quite apart from 'cockle-pickers' on the fringe.

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Originally posted by Wajoma
There must be something physical even for thought processes, mush, liquids, electrical impulses, a brain....something.

Do you deny this?
Yes

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Originally posted by Wajoma
No it is not pointless, the point ;^) is that we need a starting point, and that is:

Existence exists.

Can you seriously debate this either way? Do you deny that there is something?
Of course it CAN be denied. The fundamental axioms of any proof system have to be accepted on faith. That was Godel's theorem. A system cannot prove that it is itself true.