11 Dec 23
1). What year did the nation of Palestine come into existence?
2). Where were its National Borders?
3). What year did it cease to exist?
4). What currency did the Nation of Palestine use?....and why is there no history of it?
5). Can you name one leader of the 'nation' of Palestine prior to Yasser Arafat?
Libs, when confronted with truth, just get aaaannnnnnngggry? Aw, I hate it,,,,another bunch of questions you will not answer. Chew on your pillows. Maybe you can tell us, though, the history of Israel?
@averagejoe1 saidQ: What year did the nation of Palestine come into existence?
1). What year did the nation of Palestine come into existence?
2). Where were its National Borders?
3). What year did it cease to exist?
4). What currency did the Nation of Palestine use?....and why is there no history of it?
5). Can you name one leader of the 'nation' of Palestine prior to Yasser Arafat?
Libs, when confronted with truth, just get aa ...[text shortened]... ons you will not answer. Chew on your pillows. Maybe you can tell us, though, the history of Israel?
A: The present-day state of Palestine came into existence in the late 40's.
Q: Where were its National Borders?
A: Jordan in the east and Israel in the west.
Q: What year did it cease to exist?
A: It's still there, so this question makes no sense.
Q: What currency did the Nation of Palestine use? .and why is there no history of it?
A: the nation of Palestine uses Israeli New Shekel, the history of it is short because it was recently introduced.
Q: Can you name one leader of the 'nation' of Palestine prior to Yasser Arafat?
A: Ahmed Yassin
Q: Libs, when confronted with truth, just get aaaannnnnnngggry? Aw, I hate it,,,,another bunch of questions you will not answer. Chew on your pillows. Maybe you can tell us, though, the history of Israel?
A: I don't know if your making statements or asking questions here. In addition, much of this is your usual unintelligible word salad with poor spelling, poor punctuation, and childish comments.
@averagejoe1 saidThe Nation of Palestine were the people living in the borers of Palestine
1). What year did the nation of Palestine come into existence?
2). Where were its National Borders?
3). What year did it cease to exist?
4). What currency did the Nation of Palestine use?....and why is there no history of it?
5). Can you name one leader of the 'nation' of Palestine prior to Yasser Arafat?
Libs, when confronted with truth, just get aa ...[text shortened]... ons you will not answer. Chew on your pillows. Maybe you can tell us, though, the history of Israel?
They consisted of a multiethnic peoples but the vast majority would call themselves Palestinian Arabs.
Why don’t you Google the ‘History of Palestine’ you lazy ignorant illiberal halfwit
This is not a special Ed resource Joe, it’s a forum for people who have opinions about debatable topics the existence of Palestine is not debatable
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@averagejoe1 saidThere is no such thing as a nation called Palestine. Never was and never will be. Palestine is a region in the Levant area and always been under the control of several empires. First was the Roman Empire then manyafter, culminating in the Ottoman Empire and the British last in 1916. An Empire controls the government of these jurisdictions. [Note: one of the defining characteristics of a nation is the ability to govern themselves. Indigenous Palestinians or Arabs never governed themselves and were always part of an Empire that governed them]
1). What year did the nation of Palestine come into existence?
2). Where were its National Borders?
3). What year did it cease to exist?
4). What currency did the Nation of Palestine use?....and why is there no history of it?
5). Can you name one leader of the 'nation' of Palestine prior to Yasser Arafat?
Libs, when confronted with truth, just get aa ...[text shortened]... ons you will not answer. Chew on your pillows. Maybe you can tell us, though, the history of Israel?
The British controlled Palestine and through a UN resolution partitioned Palestine into two portions for Arabs [47%] and Jews [53%], in 1948. That was the first time since the Roman Empire removed the Jews from that area, that a country was born there. The Jews set up their nation of Israel in 1948, and the indigenous Arab people refused to set up anything instead preferred war, and with the help of their Arab neighbours started the first war with the Jews. They lost, they got pushed back and boundaries changed. Its been a repeat of that ever since.
Regions under the British Empire can and do have their own currency, their own laws and govt systems in place but they are all controlled by the Crown. They are not a separatie country and cannot change, or enact laws without permission from Britain.
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@kevcvs57 said"The Nation of Palestine were the people living in the borers of Palestine'
The Nation of Palestine were the people living in the borers of Palestine
They consisted of a multiethnic peoples but the vast majority would call themselves Palestinian Arabs.
Why don’t you Google the ‘History of Palestine’ you lazy ignorant illiberal halfwit
This is not a special Ed resource Joe, it’s a forum for people who have opinions about debatable topics the existence of Palestine is not debatable
LMFAO @ kev
11 Dec 23
@averagejoe1 saidAbsurd alt-right propaganda, without any concept of land or nationhood, outside the context of what the US now is.
1). What year did the nation of Palestine come into existence?
2). Where were its National Borders?
3). What year did it cease to exist?
4). What currency did the Nation of Palestine use?....and why is there no history of it?
5). Can you name one leader of the 'nation' of Palestine prior to Yasser Arafat?
Libs, when confronted with truth, just get aa ...[text shortened]... ons you will not answer. Chew on your pillows. Maybe you can tell us, though, the history of Israel?
Just swipe those injun tribes under the carpet, eh!
Many countries have confusing histories. Many countries were parts of other "definitions" before the English, French, Spanish and Belgians came along to place borders in them.
Israel, for example, has existed as a nation from around 1000 BC to around 800 BC.
Then it was halved in size (Judea remaining, with Galilea taken by the Assyrians) for another 250 years or so... and then all the Hebrews were carted off to Babylon to the write the old testament.
Then there was a bit of a Jewish uprising against the Greeks... a tiny Jewish uprising against the Romans... and then... well... Israel existed again in 1948. And smaller than 2900 years previously.
Palestine = the land in which Israel resides since 1948. Give or take.
From about 550 BC, the residents of Palestine have been governed by... and this probably isn't even complete:
- The Greeks
- The Romans
- The Byzantines (Greek speaking East Roman Empire)
- Arab rule (caliphat)
- The Kingdom of Jersusalem (Franks... i.e. Christian white people)
- Arab rule (post caliphat... me thinks that's what it's called)
- The Ottomans
- The English
To make it simple for you: Palestine is from the mountains in the North, between the sea and the river, down to the border with Egypt. And part of that is now Israel.
Now, to try to make you see a bigger picture. Here are the same questions you posed, but then about Scotland.
1). What year did the nation of Scotland come into existence?
2). Where were its National Borders?
3). What year did it cease to exist?
4). What currency did the Nation of Scotland use?....and why is there no history of it?
5). Can you name one leader of the 'nation' of Scotland prior to Robert the Bruce?
11 Dec 23
@rajk999 saidGo to Scotland, stand in St. George's square, and say that.
There is no such thing as a nation called Palestine. Never was and never will be. Palestine is a region in the Levant area and always been under the control of several empires. First was the Roman Empire then manyafter, culminating in the Ottoman Empire and the British last in 1916. An Empire controls the government of these jurisdictions. [Note: one of the defining cha ...[text shortened]... They are not a separatie country and cannot change, or enact laws without permission from Britain.
11 Dec 23
@shavixmir saidGood post with lots of information but Im not seeing any clear answers to the questions. By the way Scotland although a separate country is still under the British Monarchy, despite what they might want to believe.
Absurd alt-right propaganda, without any concept of land or nationhood, outside the context of what the US now is.
Just swipe those injun tribes under the carpet, eh!
Many countries have confusing histories. Many countries were parts of other "definitions" before the English, French, Spanish and Belgians came along to place borders in them.
Israel, for example, has ...[text shortened]... istory of it?
5). Can you name one leader of the 'nation' of Scotland prior to Robert the Bruce?
11 Dec 23
@rajk999 saidUhuh.
Good post with lots of information but Im not seeing any clear answers to the questions. By the way Scotland although a separate country is still under the British Monarchy, despite what they might want to believe.
Still separate country. Even though they didn’t have an own currency or parliament for hundreds of years… open borders (SHOCK AND HORROR) and even speak the same language (sort of).
Still a separate country. Even with the same king. A separate country.
Vatican city is a separate country.
So are Lichtenstein and Monaco.
Many variations of what a country can be. And not all adhere to your 5 pathetic questions.
11 Dec 23
@shavixmir saidIf we adopt the standard definition, then Palestine can be considered a nation but not a country.
Uhuh.
Still separate country. Even though they didn’t have an own currency or parliament for hundreds of years… open borders (SHOCK AND HORROR) and even speak the same language (sort of).
Still a separate country. Even with the same king. A separate country.
Vatican city is a separate country.
So are Lichtenstein and Monaco.
Many variations of what a country can be. And not all adhere to your 5 pathetic questions.
Difference between Country and Nation
1) The country name is a geographical area of land, while the national name must be an official title recognized by other states. For example, the United Kingdom is officially known as Great Britain, while the United States of America is also known as America.
2) The country name is usually a term derived from the original inhabitants of that territory. For example, Great Britain and England derive their names from the Anglo Saxon tribe that inhabited that territory.
3) A country’s borders are normally defined by river or mountain ranges. Countries with no natural boundaries are called islands. Usually larger countries have more than one island; for example, many countries have an island in both or both oceans (like Japan).
4) The government of a country is under the control of its people, while the government of a nation is run by its people. For example, every citizen of the United States is represented by a federal judge of the U.S. district court.
5) The culture and character of a country are based on its history and traditions, while the culture and character of a nation are influenced by its religion, language or nationality. For example, Great Britain has many cultural traditions such as Shakespeare’s plays, traditional food such as roast beef or tea and stories like Robin Hood.
6) A country may be divided into different regions if they were not united originally by their common languages or have changed values from one generation to another.
7) A country will have its own national characteristics even though it does not have its own national governments. For example, Great Britain is known as the “home of democracy”, while Japan has the Japanese character known as Nihon.
8) Many countries can be considered to be a single country based on their size and population, but they still maintain their own individual national character. For example: the United States is a single country because it has a population of more than 310 million people, but it still maintains its characteristic English language and American culture.
9) Not all countries have a nation within their boundaries. Some countries are made up exclusively of one nation that has unified the other nations into one country. For example, in the United States there is no distinction between English and American because all Americans are of English descent.
https://unacademy.com/content/difference-between/country-and-nation/#:~:text=A%20nation%20is%20a%20large,has%20its%20own%20national%20character.
@rajk999 saidHas has been explained to you at least several times on this board, the non-binding General Assembly resolution regarding partition of Palestine was never implemented.
There is no such thing as a nation called Palestine. Never was and never will be. Palestine is a region in the Levant area and always been under the control of several empires. First was the Roman Empire then manyafter, culminating in the Ottoman Empire and the British last in 1916. An Empire controls the government of these jurisdictions. [Note: one of the defining cha ...[text shortened]... They are not a separatie country and cannot change, or enact laws without permission from Britain.
Palestine was never part of the British Empire, it was held by that power under a League of Nations mandate. And they simply left on May 14, 1948; they did not partition the country.
11 Dec 23
@averagejoe1 said138 countries recognize Palestine as an independent State. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-that-recognize-palestine
1). What year did the nation of Palestine come into existence?
2). Where were its National Borders?
3). What year did it cease to exist?
4). What currency did the Nation of Palestine use?....and why is there no history of it?
5). Can you name one leader of the 'nation' of Palestine prior to Yasser Arafat?
Libs, when confronted with truth, just get aa ...[text shortened]... ons you will not answer. Chew on your pillows. Maybe you can tell us, though, the history of Israel?
11 Dec 23
@rajk999 saidCan a nation exist without land?
If we adopt the standard definition, then Palestine can be considered a nation but not a country.
[i]Difference between Country and Nation
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11 Dec 23
@shavixmir saidThat is not an issue. Indigenous Arabs did own land in that region, just like many other nationalities. What they did not have is control over that territory.
Can a nation exist without land?