@AverageJoe1 saidIn a non fight like this, no murder is not justified here. These two were not even that different, football weights for Austin’s position and line are often exaggerated in HS also to strike more fear in the other team. They didn’t look that much different when Austin walked into the stadium that day. Can you tell me where the law draws its lines on weight differences and what other circumstances must be met to qualify. In Texas, not the case here, two people can agree to mutual combat and go at it.
Does the law take size into account? Just asking for a friend.
@mike69 saidNo, I cannot tell you. Ask Marauder, he has his head buried in the books!!
In a non fight like this, no murder is not justified here. These two were not even that different, football weights for Austin’s position and line are often exaggerated in HS also to strike more fear in the other team. They didn’t look that much different when Austin walked into the stadium that day. Can you tell me where the law draws its lines on weight differences and wha ...[text shortened]... be met to qualify. In Texas, not the case here, two people can agree to mutual combat and go at it.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidHe didn't "recant". At first he said he didn't remembering saying it, but the defense attorney refreshed his recollection by showing him the statement he gave to the detective and he admitted the statement.
You mean the defense witness that recanted when he was testifying?
That a standard technique to use on a hostile witness.
@mike69 saidThe prosecutors excluded three black jurors because they said they didn't want "educators" on the jury then they allowed a non-black educator on the jury.
The first case I mentioned about not wanting to convict was the third jury member. The other was outside after the verdict was read. I’m not saying anything about all black people just this mindset and why it might be difficult to find non bias.
These were pre-emptive challenges, so none expressed anything suggesting "bias" and the prosecutors did not claim that.
@mike69 said"Murder" is a legal conclusion.
In a non fight like this, no murder is not justified here. These two were not even that different, football weights for Austin’s position and line are often exaggerated in HS also to strike more fear in the other team. They didn’t look that much different when Austin walked into the stadium that day. Can you tell me where the law draws its lines on weight differences and wha ...[text shortened]... be met to qualify. In Texas, not the case here, two people can agree to mutual combat and go at it.
You are deliberately falsifying; Metcalf was at least 40 lbs heavier, was standing over Anthony and even the prosecution witnesses conceded both facts.
@mike69 saidA true story from long ago (the early 1980s):
So did I, but lower not middle until my freshman year. Of course you are a little bitch and no one did that to karmelo you can’t kill for a push. The last fight I had in HS he was 6’6” had a hundred pounds at least on me, I put him in the hospital and he never came back to school. I was 6’1 180 pounds. These aren’t pro fighters where these things really matter as much as you say they were 17 at a school track meet. Does your example match the law?
I was sitting at the bar with a few friends at my local bar called the Last Chance Salon. At one of the tables, two guys were playing cards for money. One was a fairly large muscular man, the other was someone I knew "Joe". Joe was maybe 150 lbs and outweighed by at least 50lbs.
Anyway, they started arguing with the big guy calling Joe a "cheater" (maybe he was). Joe told him to pay up and GFH. The big guy then shoved Joe, knocking him to the floor and while standing yelled "Does anybody else want to F with me?"
Joe apparently did. He picked himself off the floor, grabbed a heavy glass beer pitcher off a nearby table and clocked Big Guy on his right temple.
When the Big Guy dropped to the floor unconscious, we thought he might be dead. He wasn't moving and his eyes were rolled back in his head.
Well, the bartender called the police and when they arrived (right after Big Guy was placed in the ambulance) they said "Who started it?" The story was told to them. Want to know what the head cop said?
"Sounds like he Fing deserved it." No arrest.
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@no1marauder said“ but the defense attorney refreshed his recollection by showing him the statement he gave to the detective and he admitted the statement”
He didn't "recant". At first he said he didn't remembering saying it, but the defense attorney refreshed his recollection by showing him the statement he gave to the detective and he admitted the statement.
That a standard technique to use on a hostile witness.
You don’t have any idea what was on that piece of paper…admit it
No one has testified Anthony was invited to the tent.
All you have is snake lawyers playing tricks on children.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidIdiot, you posted it yourself:
“ but the defense attorney refreshed his recollection by showing him the statement he gave to the detective and he admitted the statement”
You don’t have any idea what was on that piece of paper…admit it
No one has testified Anthony was invited to the tent.
All you have is snake lawyers playing tricks on children.
"The defense approaches the witness with papers. The witness agrees that Austin said something like that, or something similar, about wanting to beat his a--."
Heck, anyone who took an Evidence class knows the technique:
"If a witness forgets information they once knew and personally observed, counsel may show the witness a writing or other record to prompt memory. After reviewing it, the witness must testify from independent recollection rather than from the document itself."
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/present_recollection_refreshed
AND:
"The defense’s next witness is a 17-year-old from Memorial HS.
He said it was his understanding is that one of the Memorial athletes who is friends with Karmelo Anthony called him over to the Memorial tent that day."
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/frisco-murder-trial/frisco-track-meet-stabbing-trial-karmelo-anthony-austin-metcalf-collin-county-texas/287-e6ca87e7-e367-4d75-b8fe-710f04f3daf7
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I wouldn’t have done that, just in case he did die, I’m not built for prison. This guy asked my girlfriend to go to six flags over Texas with him, I waited for him in a church parking lot of all places. I saw him again in college, he had turned into all solid muscle, we just walked past one another.
@no1marauder saidDid you watch the police body cam and the video the court saw?
The prosecutors excluded three black jurors because they said they didn't want "educators" on the jury then they allowed a non-black educator on the jury.
These were pre-emptive challenges, so none expressed anything suggesting "bias" and the prosecutors did not claim that.
@no1marauder saidWas this the person walking that lied when he couldn’t even see the tent from where he was on cross examination?
He didn't "recant". At first he said he didn't remembering saying it, but the defense attorney refreshed his recollection by showing him the statement he gave to the detective and he admitted the statement.
That a standard technique to use on a hostile witness.
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@AThousandYoung saidBoth were being attacked. One was being beaten, one was assaulted . Please stay focused.
What were Zimmerman's and Rittenhouse's excuse?
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@Soothfast saidYou are wrong. There are more than 1.
Did you even look at my post in the other thread. I gave a link. Would you like instructions on how to use the link? I'm available for a few more minutes.
But if you don't want to deal with heady undertakings such as navigating links, I can just tell you now that the dispute in question is between a contractor and its subcontractors. The Obama Foundation has nothing to d ...[text shortened]... nie, and kicked your nuts with spurs, would you prefer screaming out loud or chomping on a gag ball?