11 Feb 21
[eye rolls] is an understatement here.
I am sure that when international news was critical of the Nazi party that the Nazis would have wanted that news censored, too. anti-Nazism..? SO WHAT?! The world should know that the Zionists are evil people and their practices cannot be tolerated any longer.
The post that was quoted here has been removedI’ve written many times on the subject of the IHRA and their redefining of anti-Semitism to antisemitism.
Theoretically they may have a point (that anti-Semitism is always about Jews and not about Semitic languages), but practically, they’ve mixed anti-zionism into the definition. So, being anti-zionism has become antisemitic.
And this is obviously a very bad route to stroll down.
If I criticise American imperialistic capitalism, I’m not criticising American Christians having a BBQ on a Sunday.
If I criticise China’s social credit system, I’m not attacking Dutchess.
One has to make a distinction between regime and inhabitants (whether that’s race... as if that should ever be a thing..., religion, culture, etc.); if one doesn’t, then no argument can be held.
And Israel, backed by the IHRA, is deliberately muddying these lines.
@earl-of-trumps saidNot all zionists are evil.
[eye rolls] is an understatement here.
I am sure that when international news was critical of the Nazi party that the Nazis would have wanted that news censored, too. anti-Nazism..? SO WHAT?! The world should know that the Zionists are evil people and their practices cannot be tolerated any longer.
In fact, not everyone who defines themselves as zionist, are happy with the treatment of the Palestinians by the Israeli government.
That being said, I am generally in agreement with Ilan Pappe that zionism leads to genicide.
And that the UN’s resolution from the 70’s stands: zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination.
The post that was quoted here has been removedI suspect you are right. I'm actually surprised that certain lobby groups were not
able to make it illegal in the US to question the Jewish genocide of WWII.
One cannot equate anti-Zionism with anti-Jewish or anti-Israeli.
In Washington DC, the largest Zionist lobby group is not Jewish or Israeli, it's American Christian.
12 Feb 21
@shavixmir - So, being anti-zionism has become antisemitic.
Nice trick, seeing as though the Euro-Jews are not Semites, but Arabs and Sephardi Jews are.
@earl-of-trumps said“ One cannot equate anti-Zionism with anti-Jewish or anti-Israeli.
I suspect you are right. I'm actually surprised that certain lobby groups were not
able to make it illegal in the US to question the Jewish genocide of WWII.
One cannot equate anti-Zionism with anti-Jewish or anti-Israeli.
In Washington DC, the largest Zionist lobby group is not Jewish or Israeli, it's American Christian.
In Washington DC, the largest Zionist lobby group is not Jewish or Israeli, it's American Christian.”
Their an evangelical lobby that need the Jews to return to ( and stay ) in Zion in order to fulfil the the Armageddon prophecy by having 7 years of tribulation and then the surviving Jews will convert to Christianity.
Probably not quite what the Zionists had in mind but hey when you mix geo politics with archaic religious dogma you end up with some very odd couplings, a bit like an orgy for the blind.
12 Feb 21
@kevcvs57 saidSpot on.
“ One cannot equate anti-Zionism with anti-Jewish or anti-Israeli.
In Washington DC, the largest Zionist lobby group is not Jewish or Israeli, it's American Christian.”
Their an evangelical lobby that need the Jews to return to ( and stay ) in Zion in order to fulfil the the Armageddon prophecy by having 7 years of tribulation and then the surviving Jews will convert to ...[text shortened]... h archaic religious dogma you end up with some very odd couplings, a bit like an orgy for the blind.
The post that was quoted here has been removedHorribly ironic.
However, I might go so far to say: “hey... isn’t it strange we have alt-right people on this site who are very critical of Israel?”
When on every single level they tend to be as inclusive as neo-Nazis at a Bar Mitzwa...
How could this be, one might ponder...