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Charlie Kirk in his own words

Charlie Kirk in his own words

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@no1marauder said
There's quotes from his show in the OP with him saying we should stop immigration because the Democrats' plan was to reduce the percentage of whites in the US.

Why can't he be accurately described as a white nationalist and a racist when he made public statements like that?
You are saying that what he saw and thought was happening only due to his race, and you are calling him a racist? The Democrat party, I think, has been taken over by a party for the cartels more than the US citizens. They held the border open even when drugs, sex trafficking, murder, and rapes were occurring, all the while telling everyone the border was secure. Identity politics has been a long-standing political policy that divides American politics, singling out issues and laying the blame on skin color, as a cover for topic protection. It turns all forms of disagreement when race is involved, allowing those who bought into the left’s narrative an easy accusation of name-calling. It doesn’t matter what anyone actually thinks; it only matters that the topic has some connection to race.


@no1marauder said
There's quotes from his show in the OP with him saying we should stop immigration because the Democrats' plan was to reduce the percentage of whites in the US.

Why can't he be accurately described as a white nationalist and a racist when he made public statements like that?
You don't have a problem with the Dems turning America into a predominantly black/brown country in order to get votes and make our country a single-party state?


@moonbus said
His own words.
His own words talked about an issue! You are accusing him of white supremacy, which is pushing the supremacy of the white race. To hate people of a different race is racism.

What is it not talking about race when addressing any topic where race could play a part in the discussion, that does not automatically make you a racist? You and those who see the world as you do helped trigger a weak-minded individual’s desire to kill a father or husband. You are very quick to put targets on someone’s back due to just a disagreement on any topic, where race may play a part.


@Cliff-Mashburn said
You don't have a problem with the Dems turning America into a predominantly black/brown country in order to get votes and make our country a single-party state?
ah the great white replacement, that is totally not racism


@KellyJay said
What leads you to believe he was a racist and a white supremacist, and to use Nazism to describe him? That rhetoric got him killed, Trump shot at, and others killed. When you label someone with such a horrible label, people think you need to be removed from the world, and you are justifying that with what?
"What leads you to believe he was a racist and a white supremacist, and to use Nazism to describe him?"
all the things he said

" That rhetoric got him killed"
So not the guns or inadequate mental health care. It was people calling him for what he is. All you ghouls claim that Trump saying "go and fight like hell" is not a cause for the jan 6 insurrection but someone saying "hey, this guy is kinda fascist" is? Are you dumb or just pulling a Kirk?


@KellyJay said
You are saying that what he saw and thought was happening only due to his race, and you are calling him a racist? The Democrat party, I think, has been taken over by a party for the cartels more than the US citizens. They held the border open even when drugs, sex trafficking, murder, and rapes were occurring, all the while telling everyone the border was secure. Identity ...[text shortened]... sn’t matter what anyone actually thinks; it only matters that the topic has some connection to race.
Your rant doesn't change what he said. Right wingers are obsessed with "race"; specifically with insuring the white "race" remains dominant in the US.

That's a fact and Charlie Kirk's views reflected that.


@Cliff-Mashburn said
You don't have a problem with the Dems turning America into a predominantly black/brown country in order to get votes and make our country a single-party state?
A white racist paranoid fairy tale isn't something that concerns me.

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@KellyJay said
His own words talked about an issue! You are accusing him of white supremacy, which is pushing the supremacy of the white race. To hate people of a different race is racism.

What is it not talking about race when addressing any topic where race could play a part in the discussion, that does not automatically make you a racist? You and those who see the world as you do ...[text shortened]... o put targets on someone’s back due to just a disagreement on any topic, where race may play a part.
No, believing that one "race" is superior to another "race" is racism.

If all races are equal, what's the difference what the racial composition of a country is?
Charlie Kirk's obsession with the "whiteness" of the US can only be explained by racism.


@KellyJay said
What leads you to believe he was a racist and a white supremacist, and to use Nazism to describe him? That rhetoric got him killed, Trump shot at, and others killed. When you label someone with such a horrible label, people think you need to be removed from the world, and you are justifying that with what?
and this is a completely different retort:

When Charlie Kirk says "Islam is the sword the democrats are using to slit the throat of America" would you say it's just as bad as we calling him a fascist,

At the very least the difference is he was lying.


@KellyJay said
What leads you to believe he was a racist and a white supremacist, and to use Nazism to describe him? That rhetoric got him killed, Trump shot at, and others killed. When you label someone with such a horrible label, people think you need to be removed from the world, and you are justifying that with what?
With what?

His own words.

He's not the lily white knight you people think he is.

Unless you think racists and white supremacists and misogynists are great people, and you probably do, if you support his hate speech.


@KellyJay said
His own words talked about an issue! You are accusing him of white supremacy, which is pushing the supremacy of the white race. To hate people of a different race is racism.

What is it not talking about race when addressing any topic where race could play a part in the discussion, that does not automatically make you a racist? You and those who see the world as you do ...[text shortened]... o put targets on someone’s back due to just a disagreement on any topic, where race may play a part.
So you support racism?

It sure sounds like you do.

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@Cliff-Mashburn said
You don't have a problem with the Dems turning America into a predominantly black/brown country in order to get votes and make our country a single-party state?
What I have a problem with is racist speech like this.

The dangerous ones in this country are the ones spreading and normalizing this kind of hate.


@KellyJay said
You are saying that what he saw and thought was happening only due to his race, and you are calling him a racist? The Democrat party, I think, has been taken over by a party for the cartels more than the US citizens. They held the border open even when drugs, sex trafficking, murder, and rapes were occurring, all the while telling everyone the border was secure. Identity ...[text shortened]... sn’t matter what anyone actually thinks; it only matters that the topic has some connection to race.
"a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing"

You're spending a lot of words saying nothing.

This is all those who defend racism have.


@Suzianne said
So you support racism?

It sure sounds like you do.
That is because as soon as you hear someone disagreeing, you think it's hate, and if race is involved, you automatically go to racism.


@Zahlanzi said
and this is a completely different retort:

When Charlie Kirk says "Islam is the sword the democrats are using to slit the throat of America" would you say it's just as bad as we calling him a fascist,

At the very least the difference is he was lying.
I'd have to hear the full context.