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Originally posted by richjohnson
Are you saying that Chavez is dangerous because you beleive his policies will trigger US retaliation which will hurt the Venezuelan people?
Chavez should be working on a workable relationship with the United States, instead of provoking them and insulting their representatives every time there is an opportunity. Chavez simply isn't persueing a sensible, moderate and lasting policy towards the US.

I'm not talking about "retaliation" although that certainly belongs to the possibilities. First of all I'm talking about building good relations with every nation on earth. Chavez isn't interested in this. His attempts in seeking close relations with Iran are not just plain stupid but also detrimental towards good relations with the overall majority of the world's nations, the world community. His foreign policy will turn out to be a disaster for the people whose interests he is claiming to serve.

Instead of seeking closer ties with countries like Iran and Cuba he should be looking for an improvement in the relations with the European Union. I'm sure this would turn out to be more advantageous and more fruitful for the Venezuelan people, including the poor people.

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Originally posted by lioyank
Actually, YOU were the one bringing the US and Bush into this, not ivanhoe. This is clearly seen in your post that I quoted.
Thanks, lioyank 🙂

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Originally posted by ivanhoe
Chavez should be working on a workable relationship with the United States, instead of provoking them and insulting their representatives every time there is an opportunity. Chavez simply isn't persueing a sensible, moderate and lasting policy towards the US.

I'm not talking about "retaliation" although that certainly belongs to the possibilities. First o ...[text shortened]... ore advantageous and more fruitful for the Venezuelan people, including the poor people.
Whereas America of course seeks to be friends with all the nations of the world, such as Israel, Britain, er...
It was also the US who were involved in the coup attempt to overthrow Chavez, and fund his political opposition.

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Originally posted by wedgehead2
Whereas America of course seeks to be friends with all the nations of the world, such as Israel, Britain, er...
It was also the US who were involved in the coup attempt to overthrow Chavez, and fund his political opposition.
Does this prove that Chavez is pursueing a sensible foreign policy ?

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Originally posted by ivanhoe
Does this prove that Chavez is pursueing a sensible foreign policy ?
No foreign policy Chavez could pursue would satisfy the right wing fanatics in the Bush administration as long as he pursues a domestic policy which doesn't allow his country's economy to be dominated by foreign rich boys.

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The only thing you should bear in mind about Chavez is that he is

******* THE ONE TRUE GOD *********

And you all should be honoured that you were fortunate enough to have walked the earth at the same time as the CHOOSEN ONE

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Originally posted by ivanhoe

Instead of seeking closer ties with countries like Iran and Cuba he should be looking for an improvement in the relations with the European Union.
I think your underestimating him. He knows what he's doing.By building relationships with Iran and Cuba, he IS improving his relationship with the EUNichs. With every anti American word he spews, he gains more support from the people of the once great nations of old Europe.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
No foreign policy Chavez could pursue would satisfy the right wing fanatics in the Bush administration as long as he pursues a domestic policy which doesn't allow his country's economy to be dominated by foreign rich boys.
why is fascism ok for venezuela and not for other countries?

maybe that's a bit strong, but if chavez wins out, won't you need to abandon new york and move to a warmer clime?

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
why is fascism ok for venezuela and not for other countries?

maybe that's a bit strong, but if chavez wins out, won't you need to abandon new york and move to a warmer clime?
How is Chavez a "fascist"?

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Originally posted by no1marauder
How is Chavez a "fascist"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_cult

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personality_cult
This source doesn't mention Chavez! Anyway, the great commander in Chief Mr Bush has far more of a personality cult going- Chavez just wants the venzulean people to stand up against oppression. ANti-american or left wing leaders aren't often fascist, as you seem to imply (continuously).

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Hugo Chávez is too good as Hitler and Mussolini were.
They kissed children. They had a good propaganda machine.

About tyranny, the History happens again as farce.

And again...

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Originally posted by wedgehead2
Chavez just wants the venzulean people to stand up against oppression.
He wants the to stand up against oppression? Oppression of who? By whom? At one time American businesses did business there, but that's over now. It would seem to me that the only person in a position to oppress his people is him. It would make no sense at all for him to say, "I am oppressing you. Stand up against me."

Help me out with this one. I don't understand.

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Originally posted by Merk
He wants the to stand up against oppression? Oppression of who? By whom? At one time American businesses did business there, but that's over now. It would seem to me that the only person in a position to oppress his people is him. It would make no sense at all for him to say, "I am oppressing you. Stand up against me."

Help me out with this one. I don't understand.
Well american businesses do still have interests there. It isn't as if all western companies have been thrown out (yet). The oppression is also an international thing, to do with american imperialism, not just in Venezuela or Latin America but around the world- in areas like the Middle East.
He got voted in again recent you know, democratically- a large majority of people supported him. They must think that he's doing good. Surely they know more about oppressive he is to them than any outsiders- who can't judge what Venezuela was like before he came in.

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Originally posted by Helder Octavio
Hugo Chávez is too good as Hitler and Mussolini were.
They kissed children. They had a good propaganda machine.

About tyranny, the History happens again as farce.

And again...

And again...

And again...
Cavez isn't like Hitler or Mussolini! They are at totally opposite ends of the spectrum. For example, Mussolini was backed by most of the Catholic church, as was Franco. Hitler made a deal with the popoe to turn a blind eye to what he was doing. On the other hand, Chavez has reffered to religion as a "cancer". Some differences here. Also, Chavez has been voted in several times by an overall majority- something Hitler failed to do.