Say what you want about trump I know everyone has some well-entrenched opinions.
But Cheesebro? This dude definitely committed treason. No doubt. His memos clearly state the strategy to prevent Biden from amassing 270 electoral votes even after all the states had certified and all legal challenges were resolved. There's no question whether or not he's attempting to overthrow a government. He clearly is.
If the US had any moxie left, this dude is tarred, feathered, disbarred and forced into a life of ditch digging.
Whether trump knew about it and went along with it, time will tell. The cheese has apparently agreed to cooperate with investigators.
@wildgrass saidyeah, aint nothing like putting a felony charge on someone for texting asking for a phone number…
Say what you want about trump I know everyone has some well-entrenched opinions.
But Cheesebro? This dude definitely committed treason. No doubt. His memos clearly state the strategy to prevent Biden from amassing 270 electoral votes even after all the states had certified and all legal challenges were resolved. There's no question whether or not he's attempting to overt ...[text shortened]... ent along with it, time will tell. The cheese has apparently agreed to cooperate with investigators.
I have warned before, be careful what you wish for
@mott-the-hoople saidWhat text? I'm not wishing for anything, get outta here. Multiple memos written by Cheese clearly laid out a 'legal' strategy to install an illegitimate president who lost an election. Sad and treasonous.
yeah, aint nothing like putting a felony charge on someone for texting asking for a phone number…
I have warned before, be careful what you wish for
@wildgrass saidHe was the mastermind.
What text? I'm not wishing for anything, get outta here. Multiple memos written by Cheese clearly laid out a 'legal' strategy to install an illegitimate president who lost an election. Sad and treasonous.
At first, we thought it was Eastman, but emails show it came from Chesebro.
@mott-the-hoople saidAnything to let criminals go just because they have an 'R', right?
yeah, aint nothing like putting a felony charge on someone for texting asking for a phone number…
I have warned before, be careful what you wish for
Tell your 'bro' to flip on Trump and he might walk.
@mott-the-hoople saidBen Shapiro in 2014, when asked whether we should indict executive branch officials: "we've gotten comfortable with the executive branch violating our rights as citizens.... if we start treating them as criminals, maybe they'll think twice before they act so criminally in the future."
yeah, aint nothing like putting a felony charge on someone for texting asking for a phone number…
I have warned before, be careful what you wish for
Be careful what you wish for?
This is worth a read. The cheese doctored and disseminated complete misrepresentations of legal theory and precedent. This fake news spread rapidly through trump world (which was part of the overall strategy to overthrow the government) to make it seem like they still had time to legally reverse the election outcome. However, after state certification and resolution of all court challenges, everything they did to overturn the election at that point was 100% illegal.
https://www.justsecurity.org/87498/kenneth-chesebros-misrepresentation-of-laurence-tribe-scholarship-in-his-efforts-to-overturn-the-2020-presidential-election/
@wildgrass saidIf it is beyond question, why has there been not enough evidence to put him on trial?
Say what you want about trump I know everyone has some well-entrenched opinions.
But Cheesebro? This dude definitely committed treason. No doubt. His memos clearly state the strategy to prevent Biden from amassing 270 electoral votes even after all the states had certified and all legal challenges were resolved. There's no question whether or not he's attempting to overt ...[text shortened]... ent along with it, time will tell. The cheese has apparently agreed to cooperate with investigators.
Is the US justice system broken...
Or are you speaking quite hyperbolically?
@philokalia saidUhhh… he is going on trial.
If it is beyond question, why has there been not enough evidence to put him on trial?
Is the US justice system broken...
Or are you speaking quite hyperbolically?
Was he, or was he not, recorded demanding an extra 11.000+ votes on a telephone conversation?
Is that, or is that not, a then president attempting to influence an election result?
Is a man in an elected position of power, attempting to influence an election result, a form of undermining democratic results?
And is that not undermining democracy?
It’s not rocket science when you break it down.
@philokalia saidI just saw his mugshot on the local news. Lol. He's being charged for multiple felonies. Obviously even the cheese deserves a fair trial, but unless the blood-soaked glove doesn't fit, he's very likely headed for prison.
If it is beyond question, why has there been not enough evidence to put him on trial?
Is the US justice system broken...
Or are you speaking quite hyperbolically?
@shavixmir said"Was he, or was he not, recorded demanding an extra 11.000+ votes on a telephone conversation? '
Uhhh… he is going on trial.
Was he, or was he not, recorded demanding an extra 11.000+ votes on a telephone conversation?
Is that, or is that not, a then president attempting to influence an election result?
Is a man in an elected position of power, attempting to influence an election result, a form of undermining democratic results?
And is that not undermining democracy?
It’s not rocket science when you break it down.
No...you are furthering a lie
"Is that, or is that not, a then president attempting to influence an election result?'
the current president is doing just that
"Is a man in an elected position of power, attempting to influence an election result, a form of undermining democratic results?"
Yes it is...bidens corrupt DOJ is protecting him tho
@mott-the-hoople saidIf the current president is doing something you think is bad, does that work as an argument to excuse behavior of a past president?
"Was he, or was he not, recorded demanding an extra 11.000+ votes on a telephone conversation? '
No...you are furthering a lie
"Is that, or is that not, a then president attempting to influence an election result?'
the current president is doing just that
"Is a man in an elected position of power, attempting to influence an election result, a ...[text shortened]... orm of undermining democratic results?"
Yes it is...bidens corrupt DOJ is protecting him tho
Maybe they both did illegal things?
@mott-the-hoople saidAhh thanks for foolsplaining that one 😂😂
"Was he, or was he not, recorded demanding an extra 11.000+ votes on a telephone conversation? '
No...you are furthering a lie
"Is that, or is that not, a then president attempting to influence an election result?'
the current president is doing just that
"Is a man in an elected position of power, attempting to influence an election result, a ...[text shortened]... orm of undermining democratic results?"
Yes it is...bidens corrupt DOJ is protecting him tho