Originally posted by sonhouse One thing in Manning's favor: None of the documents revealed were higher than mere secret. Manning was sentenced to far more time than anyone else for that level of treason. And the Duchess is right, if she can find another place to live, it would be in her best interest. She doesn't get out till May 17th.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie Self identification is not enough for people. One could for example make the argument that self identification may be a kind of self delusion, that one has convinced oneself that a determinism exists, that genetics have acted as a causation, all kinds of things and by contrast human physiology is very real. I am not arguing that Manning has no righ ...[text shortened]... elf identification is not enough for some people and some other compelling reason must be found.
documents ended in 2009, just before the president set a new policy in the war; and claimed that the whole episode was suspect because WikiLeaks was against the war. Still, it was hard to dismiss official internal memos such as: “The general view of Afghans is that current gov’t is worse than the Taliban.
Among the revelations that gai ...[text shortened]... day in prison would have been more appropriate than a commutation after 7 years in custody IMO.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie I have not stated that my religion can decide anything for anyone except for me and infact I have consistently stated on these forums that people are free moral agents. What I am trying to get you to understand although you seem rather unwilling is that if you want people to be more accepting of people like Manning you have to have something more su ...[text shortened]... m bothered though by a lack of reason as to why people should be more accepting of transgenders.
Lack of reason? I can think of a number of reasons, but how about starting with reason number one:
Good question, so I looked it up. Apparently she can go to just about any country which is not English language. However, not many English speaking countries will take her.
So if she wants to live in an country where English is the majority first language, she's limited to Ireland, Belize, Liberia, and some Caribbean countries.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie I have not stated that my religion can decide anything for anyone except for me and infact I have consistently stated on these forums that people are free moral agents. What I am trying to get you to understand although you seem rather unwilling is that if you want people to be more accepting of people like Manning you have to have something more su ...[text shortened]... m bothered though by a lack of reason as to why people should be more accepting of transgenders.
I am bothered though by a lack of reason as to why people should be more accepting of transgenders..
Over the years, RC has often exhibited his homophobia. That he also exhibits transphobia comes as no surprise to anyone who has read his posts over the years.
Originally posted by Kunsoo Lack of reason? I can think of a number of reasons, but how about starting with reason number one:
"I don't want to be a d----k"
I suspect like many people you have never really thought about it and that is why we are treated to these rather insipid platitudes, 'mind your own business', 'I don't want to be a d__k' and a plethora of other nonsensical, bumper sticker, rainbow flag waving, empty rhetoric. If you don't have a valid reason just say so but please spare us the amateur dramatics. The liberal strategy of 'shame and malign', anyone who does not conform to your way of thinking or who demands a reason from you is just so last year, its not working for you any more because its transparent and plastic. I suggest that you put a little more effort into your attempts to convince those who do not share your perspective.
Originally posted by ThinkOfOne [b] I am bothered though by a lack of reason as to why people should be more accepting of transgenders..
Over the years, RC has often exhibited his homophobia. That he also exhibits transphobia comes as no surprise to anyone who has read his posts over the years.[/b]
This is simply a rather predictable appeal to personal consideration rather than attacking the substance of the post. How banal. I have appealed to and asked for a reason, if you don't have one just say so but simply telling others that they are homophobiac or transphobiac or attempting to malign them with any other debilitating mental ailment simply because they have asked for a reason is not working for you. Its nothing more than bumper sticker, rainbow flag waving, intellectually lazy, impuissant empty rhetoric. I repeat if you do not have a valid reason just say so or at very least put a little more effort into attempting to provide one.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie I have not stated that my religion can decide anything for anyone except for me and infact I have consistently stated on these forums that people are free moral agents. What I am trying to get you to understand although you seem rather unwilling is that if you want people to be more accepting of people like Manning you have to have something more su ...[text shortened]... m bothered though by a lack of reason as to why people should be more accepting of transgenders.
When you say: "Bothered by a lack of reason as to why people should be more accepting of transgenders.". What do you mean? Do you mean that once people have decided to go down that route people should not be able to avoid them, should not be able to force them out of their homes or deny them employment, or are you referring to the availability of the procedure?
19 Jan '17 00:24
Chelsea Manning's sentence commuted
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