From the link below:
"Among the many health care workers in the crowd were two cousins, Beatrice and Christina, both nurses who potentially face losing their jobs if they do not take the vaccine.
Beatrice, a nurse from Troy, Michigan, told The Epoch Times, “Being forced to take the shot or lose your job is like me telling a patient, ‘Take your pills or I won’t feed you, bathe you, or care for you.’ Both instances violate the nurse’s code of ethics.”
Beatrice continued, “Christina and I grew up in communist Romania where doctors put things in your arm against your will. We know what this is. We lived under it. It’s communism.”
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/hundreds-protest-vaccination-mandate-tyranny-in-michigan_3938253.[WORD TOO LONG]
Democrats have been fooled into embracing communism. They have become a cult of branch covidians.
@metal-brain saidDemocrats have been fooled into embracing communism. They have become a cult of branch covidians.
From the link below:
"Among the many health care workers in the crowd were two cousins, Beatrice and Christina, both nurses who potentially face losing their jobs if they do not take the vaccine.
Beatrice, a nurse from Troy, Michigan, told The Epoch Times, “Being forced to take the shot or lose your job is like me telling a patient, ‘Take your pills or I won’t feed ...[text shortened]...
Democrats have been fooled into embracing communism. They have become a cult of branch covidians.
News Flash: The old Commie boogeyman isn't scaring people anymore. Your sad devotion to old red scare is about as relevant today as high buttoned shoes. Yawn -
@metal-brain saidSo get another job instead of bringing your nasty infections into a hospital. Or become one of the many homeless who nobody seems to think are being oppressed.
From the link below:
"Among the many health care workers in the crowd were two cousins, Beatrice and Christina, both nurses who potentially face losing their jobs if they do not take the vaccine.
Beatrice, a nurse from Troy, Michigan, told The Epoch Times, “Being forced to take the shot or lose your job is like me telling a patient, ‘Take your pills or I won’t feed ...[text shortened]...
Democrats have been fooled into embracing communism. They have become a cult of branch covidians.
@athousandyoung saidNews flash: Vaccinated people can bring your nasty infections into a hospital.
So get another job instead of bringing your nasty infections into a hospital. Or become one of the many homeless who nobody seems to think are being oppressed.
https://qz.com/2044284/icelands-rising-covid-19-cases-demonstrate-vaccine-efficacy/
@mchill saidTell that to your hero Biden.
Democrats have been fooled into embracing communism. They have become a cult of branch covidians.
News Flash: The old Commie boogeyman isn't scaring people anymore. Your sad devotion to old red scare is about as relevant today as high buttoned shoes. Yawn -
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/15/politics/cuba-communism-biden/index.html
@metal-brain saidDo surgeons have to wash their hands before surgeory? Or are they forced to use sterilized equipment?
From the link below:
"Among the many health care workers in the crowd were two cousins, Beatrice and Christina, both nurses who potentially face losing their jobs if they do not take the vaccine.
Beatrice, a nurse from Troy, Michigan, told The Epoch Times, “Being forced to take the shot or lose your job is like me telling a patient, ‘Take your pills or I won’t feed ...[text shortened]...
Democrats have been fooled into embracing communism. They have become a cult of branch covidians.
Are pilots allowed to fly commercial planes when strung out on LSD?
Are bus drivers allowed to continue their jobs if they lose their eyesight?
Are paedophiles allowed to work in kindergardens?
Do you have to stop at a red traffic light?
There are all sorts of rules and restrictions in place to make sure society keeps functioning and to keep most people safe.
Yes. Mandatory vaccinations do tread on personal integrity.
Yes, you have to weigh that very, very carefully.
And yes, it is a policy, which has to be evaluated to learn from.
What you, and the alt-right, don’t seem to comprehend is the immense scale of problems society will have if we don’t get control of this disease. Hence you don’t understand the extreme measures being rolled out.
Have mistakes been made?
Where will all this end?
What about a next pandemic?
Where did it come from?
These are all very real and quite frightening questions.
But just because these questions are real and have to be asked, doesn’t mean there’s this massive world wide conspiracy hell bent on controlling you.
It’s people with as much knowledge as can be had at this moment in time making decisions based on that knowledge.
Trying to balance personal liberty with the needs of society, economics and health.
@shavixmir saidYou forgot one.
Do surgeons have to wash their hands before surgeory? Or are they forced to use sterilized equipment?
Are pilots allowed to fly commercial planes when strung out on LSD?
Are bus drivers allowed to continue their jobs if they lose their eyesight?
Are paedophiles allowed to work in kindergardens?
Do you have to stop at a red traffic light?
There are all sorts o ...[text shortened]... hat knowledge.
Trying to balance personal liberty with the needs of society, economics and health.
Do speed limits on roads save lives? Of course they do.
Would lowering the speed limit save more lives? Of course they would.
Why doesn't congress pass laws to lower the speed limit to save lives? Because driving fast is more important than saving lives. When congress and Reagan raised the speed limit back in the 80s saving lives was clearly not a priority.
Seat belt laws save lives and they are enforced with fines. Wearing a seat belt is a choice too. You can not wear one, get harassed by the cops and pay lots of fines. Most people try to avoid the harassment though. Helmet laws for motorcyclists were repealed here in Michigan. Helmets save lives, but Michigan opted to let the motorcyclist get higher insurance rates instead. I guess human life is not as important if it costs the taxpayer nothing.
Forced really isn't the correct term. Compelled by harassment is more accurate.
Society does not always prioritize saving lives. You need to remember that.
@metal-brain saidIt’s what I wrote: it’s a balancing act between keeping society as safe as possible and civil liberties.
You forgot one.
Do speed limits on roads save lives? Of course they do.
Would lowering the speed limit save more lives? Of course they would.
Why doesn't congress pass laws to lower the speed limit to save lives? Because driving fast is more important than saving lives. When congress and Reagan raised the speed limit back in the 80s saving lives was clearly not a pri ...[text shortened]... sment is more accurate.
Society does not always prioritize saving lives. You need to remember that.
@shavixmir saidHerd immunity is impossible.
It’s what I wrote: it’s a balancing act between keeping society as safe as possible and civil liberties.
Staying safe is up to the individual, not others. You seem to be in denial that herd immunity is an impossible goal.
Vaccinating 100% of the population will not stop the spread of the virus. Get it through your thick skull.
@metal-brain saidYou don’t know what is meant by herd immunity.
Herd immunity is impossible.
Staying safe is up to the individual, not others. You seem to be in denial that herd immunity is an impossible goal.
Vaccinating 100% of the population will not stop the spread of the virus. Get it through your thick skull.
Society creates rules. Not only individuals.
Vaccinating 100% of the people will slow the mutation rate considerably, stop people getting seriously ill and make the whole situation more managable.
When will you get this through your thick skull. Everyone else seems to get it.
@metal-brain saidNews flash the viral load carried / expelled by a vaccinated person is minuscule compared to that of an unvaccinated person.
News flash: Vaccinated people can bring your nasty infections into a hospital.
https://qz.com/2044284/icelands-rising-covid-19-cases-demonstrate-vaccine-efficacy/
@shavixmir said"Vaccinating 100% of the people will slow the mutation rate considerably, stop people getting seriously ill and make the whole situation more managable."
You don’t know what is meant by herd immunity.
Society creates rules. Not only individuals.
Vaccinating 100% of the people will slow the mutation rate considerably, stop people getting seriously ill and make the whole situation more managable.
When will you get this through your thick skull. Everyone else seems to get it.
No it will not. The exact opposite is true. My source is a nobel prize winner.
Look up "antibody dependent enhancement" and you may learn something. Reading will not kill you.
@kevcvs57 saidThat is called viral shedding and does not prove how contagious a virus is. It also is not true of all variants. Your information is outdated and therefore wrong.
News flash the viral load carried / expelled by a vaccinated person is minuscule compared to that of an unvaccinated person.
https://medicaltrend.org/2021/07/27/the-viral-load-of-delta-variant-is-1260-times-the-original-covid-19-strain/
@metal-brain saidYour source is an idiot or more probably like yourself a liar with an agenda.
"Vaccinating 100% of the people will slow the mutation rate considerably, stop people getting seriously ill and make the whole situation more managable."
No it will not. The exact opposite is true. My source is a nobel prize winner.
Look up "antibody dependent enhancement" and you may learn something. Reading will not kill you.
Reading has never done me any harm at all but that’s probably because I do not hound dog the right wing malicious foreign government backed conspiracy anti vaxx sites that you do.
Get the jag but more importantly get a life you basement dwelling troll.
@metal-brain saidYeah really uh perhaps that’s why the delta becomes the dominant strain in a matter of weeks or months. Thanks for really well known info that I’ve been aware of since that variant rampaged through parts of India and then the UK, fortunately me and mine were double vaxxed by then so it wasn’t an issue for me personally. It’s a shame about all the unvaccinated that are dying though thanks to scum like yourself .
That is called viral shedding and does not prove how contagious a virus is. It also is not true of all variants. Your information is outdated and therefore wrong.
https://medicaltrend.org/2021/07/27/the-viral-load-of-delta-variant-is-1260-times-the-original-covid-19-strain/