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@shavixmir said
There are now fewer deaths. Yes.
But death isn’t the only problem with corona.
2% of infected people have very serious lung problems, a percentage seems to have remaining heart problems and a percentage seems to have brain clotting.

Also, I don’t know what you mean that the UK government isn’t keeping track of figures and numbers... I linked their official site which t ...[text shortened]... mean, there’s no need to get all panicked about it all, but stick to the guidelines. Use your brain.
I don't dispute what you say here, but if you were in charge of planning public health policy for the coming winter would you be guided by the falling admission rate or the increasing numbers of positive test results in the community?

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Of course it’s 2% of infected people.
That’s what it always is.

Now, let’s take total death rate, as an example.
In the UK there have been a total of 326.000 cases. And a total number of deaths of 41.000. What’s the percentage of deaths?

Yesterday the UK had 1.042 new corona cases (people tested positive). And 97 people admitted to hospital with Covid.

What’s the percentage?

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To late for Australia, suicides in the 21-50 age bracket through the roof. I funeral parlor reported holding 9 suicide funerals in one day, say they have never seen the likes. It will only get worse as we are hand fed fear on a daily basis.
I so agree with you on this, its all gone just a few tads too far.

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I wouldn't call 240 deaths due to the virus in August, of which 63 were since August 16th "insignificant" esp. since you are claiming that they are so unimportant restrictions should be relaxed. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/ (see "Total Deaths" chart).

The UK also rather dubiously excludes any deaths in their COVID count if they occur more than 28 days after a positive test (they also don't include those without a positive test). https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/deaths

Yet, "Among those who die, the final outcome can come as quickly as two weeks after symptoms start, or up to eight weeks later. Add a possible 14-day incubation period, and the longest likely scenario, then, is 10 total weeks from the time of infection to a person’s death." https://elemental.medium.com/from-infection-to-recovery-how-long-it-lasts-199e266fd018

It is virtually certain given the excess death data, that the UK is undercounting COVID deaths. And a country adding over a 1,000 confirmed cases a day (probably meaning 10x that many are actually occurring) shouldn't be relaxing mandatory public health measures yet in the midst of a pandemic (we've seen what happened in the US in States like Florida and Texas when similar logic was applied).



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@no1marauder said

The UK also rather dubiously excludes any deaths in their COVID count if they occur more than 28 days after a positive test (they also don't include those without a positive test). https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/deaths
Before their 'change in the rules' the UK counted.a person killed in a car accident in July as a Covid death if they.had tested positive in May, which is equally ludicrous the other way.

I don't particularly approve of the way our government have handled the pandemic, but I think we have reported deaths in an honest, upfront way. Unlike others.

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@blood-on-the-tracks said
Before their 'change in the rules' the UK counted.a person killed in a car accident in July as a Covid death if they.had tested positive in May, which is equally ludicrous the other way.

I don't particularly approve of the way our government have handled the pandemic, but I think we have reported deaths in an honest, upfront way. Unlike others.
I don't think so; the number of excess deaths in England alone since March 20th exceeds the reported COVID-19 death toll in the UK by almost 12,000:

Excess deaths 53,238 https://fingertips.phe.org.uk/static-reports/mortality-surveillance/excess-mortality-in-england-latest.html

Reported COVID deaths in the entire UK: 41, 433. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


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