COVID Vaccines Saved 3 Million Lives in US

@sh76 said
As soon as I heard about what happened to Hamlin (I wasn't watching the game), almost my first thought was that the anti-vaxxers are going to blame this on the vaccine and that the covidians are going to blame it on covid.

By and large, the first has come to pass in spades and the latter really hasn't, save for one or two nut jobs on Twitter.

Does that mean there's a nutti ...[text shortened]... grocery stores are too dangerous and who wear double N95s when jogging in the park)?

I fear so.

Yeah, right. Because 24 year old athletes getting massive heart attacks is normal.
It is rare and you know it.

https://diedsuddenly.info/

You are the nut. You do not even have the common sense to blame it on covid. There is no dispute that heart attacks in young people are on the rise. The only dispute is what the cause is. You are also a liar. I am anti gene vaccine because they are not vaccines. Stop calling me anti vaxx you lying POS!

What do you think the cause is? Do you even have an answer? What are you going to scapegoat so you don't have to stop denying it is the gene vaccine.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation/heart-attack-deaths-jumped-sharply-among-young-us-adults-in-2nd-year-of-covid-pandemic/

sh76 thinks 26% of people are lying when they say they know someone who died from the gene vaccine. The ultra conformists who submitted to the clot shot always deny they were foolish for believing the big pharma propaganda. sh76 lapped up the propaganda like it was cool aid. sh76 would make the perfect follower of Jim Jones.

@metal-brain said
Yeah, right. Because 24 year old athletes getting massive heart attacks is normal.
It is rare and you know it.

https://diedsuddenly.info/

You are the nut. You do not even have the common sense to blame it on covid. There is no dispute that heart attacks in young people are on the rise. The only dispute is what the cause is. You are also a liar. I am anti gene vacc ...[text shortened]... 76 lapped up the propaganda like it was cool aid. sh76 would make the perfect follower of Jim Jones.

As No1 pointed out, these surveys always say a significant percentage of people believe anything nuts. You can ask everyone whether they shared breakfast with a space alien this morning, and 12% of them will say yes. I imagine a lot of it is the respondent being insulted by the question or playing games. Hell, I've given stupid answers to stupid questions on these surveys occasionally. (I'm currently on a Gallup panel and, while I generally take these questions seriously, if I see a really stupid question, I'll sometimes give a stupid answer just for the Hell of it.)

Damar Hamlin got hit really hard in the chest by a really big and fast person. That he got exactly the wrong hit at the wrong time in the wrong spot at the wrong momentum is hardly inconceivable. It doesn't go begging for a far-fetched explanation.

Just as I know from my personal experience and having seen everyone around me that the wild long covid claims often go into sheer fantasy land, I also know that your suppositions about the danger of the vaccine are sheer fantasy.

Oh, I believe that 28% of people (or, more likely, 88% ) know someone who got the vaccine and later died, I don't think people are well enough trained in avoiding the post hoc ergo proptor hoc fallacy for the 28% to mean anything real.

@sh76 said
As No1 pointed out, these surveys always say a significant percentage of people believe anything nuts. You can ask everyone whether they shared breakfast with a space alien this morning, and 12% of them will say yes. I imagine a lot of it is the respondent being insulted by the question or playing games. Hell, I've given stupid answers to stupid questions on these surveys occasi ...[text shortened]... trained in avoiding the post hoc ergo proptor hoc fallacy for the 28% to mean anything real.

"You can ask everyone whether they shared breakfast with a space alien this morning, and 12% of them will say yes."

You moron!
28 -12= 16
Do math much? You dipstick!

I saw the video of Damar Hamlin and he didn't get hit that hard. Try watching the video before posting such nonsense. You know people that dies from the gene vaccine. You just fool yourself into thinking it was covid, even if they say it was the gene vaccine. Republicans instantly don't know what is killing them. You know better from your armchair because you are a democrat.

Tell me more lies. You are on a roll.

@metal-brain said
"You can ask everyone whether they shared breakfast with a space alien this morning, and 12% of them will say yes."

You moron!
28 -12= 16
Do math much? You dipstick!

I saw the video of Damar Hamlin and he didn't get hit that hard. Try watching the video before posting such nonsense. You know people that dies from the gene vaccine. You just fool yourself into think ...[text shortened]... know better from your armchair because you are a democrat.

Tell me more lies. You are on a roll.

Here's the weird thing.

Your wild, raging insults don't even make me flinch. Of course I don't fundamentally care what people on some anonymous message board think, but when people attack me, I at least usually cloud up in anger for a couple of seconds.

When you call me a moron, dipstick and liar (and democrat, for good measure) who can't do math in one post, it literally just made me smile.

Weird.

@sh76 said
Here's the weird thing.

Your wild, raging insults don't even make me flinch. Of course I don't fundamentally care what people on some anonymous message board think, but when people attack me, I at least usually cloud up in anger for a couple of seconds.

When you call me a moron, dipstick and liar (and democrat, for good measure) who can't do math in one post, it literally just made me smile.

Weird.

LOL!
I know you better than that.
You are still evading my question. Why are people dying at an accelerated rate? Are you having a hard time finding a scapegoat? I'm sure you will find a confirmation bias if given enough time, but what is it?

I know how you debate from experience. I know all of your weaknesses. If you are smart you will not foolishly pursue this debate any further. If not I will destroy you in the worst way. Your call dude.

@wajoma said
A few posts on anonymous chess site has influenced 78 million Americans, up against the bought and paid for MSM, the massive multi-million dollar state propaganda machine, the useful idiots like colbert, SNL, kimmel and the rest.

I'd like to take it as a compliment but it's almost as far out to space as your 3 dead from the juice dream feeling.

It is getting a bit toasty for the lovers of state force, I recommend and already foretold an escape route was eminent.

Are you a native English speaker? If so, why are you unaware that the phrase "people like X and Y" is not limited to the individuals X and Y?

Sure, I could waste time tossing insults, but the bottom line is you have presented no credible evidence that these vaccines cause death in anything but a tiny subset of those who receive the vaccines - well under one in a million cases according to the agencies which monitor such data. Since this fact doesn't fit your preconceptions. you're forced to fall back on the usual evidence free conspiracy theories i.e. the government is lying.

Since you presented nothing to support this, what is left to debate? Like all anti-vaxxers you claim, without evidence, the vaccines create far more serious adverse events than they actually do while downplaying their obvious immense, life saving benefits. How can one debate the deluded who refuse to accept real world evidence?

If you want, you can further delude yourself into thinking others are leaving this thread because of the brilliant force of your arguments, but that's as laughable as the "arguments" themselves.

@metal-brain said
LOL!
I know you better than that.
You are still evading my question. Why are people dying at an accelerated rate? Are you having a hard time finding a scapegoat? I'm sure you will find a confirmation bias if given enough time, but what is it?

I know how you debate from experience. I know all of your weaknesses. If you are smart you will not foolishly pursue this debate any further. If not I will destroy you in the worst way. Your call dude.

Do you write these posts in between sessions at the asylum?

@metal-brain said
The gene vaccines are not vaccines. They are treatments.

https://tpulse.substack.com/p/why-did-the-cdc-quietly-change-its-definition-of-vaccine-for-new-covid-shots

Stop falsely calling people anti vaxxers. We are anti gene vaccine. If you falsely call people that are anti gene vaccine anti vaxxers again you will be a liar since you now know better. Don't pretend you were not warned to cease lying.

The gene vaccines are vaccines and your linked article does not prove otherwise.

@no1marauder said
Do you write these posts in between sessions at the asylum?

Maybe it’s part of his therapy.

@athousandyoung said
The gene vaccines are vaccines and your linked article does not prove otherwise.

You can change the definition of an ass, but you are still an ass.

@sh76 said
Here's the weird thing.

Your wild, raging insults don't even make me flinch. Of course I don't fundamentally care what people on some anonymous message board think, but when people attack me, I at least usually cloud up in anger for a couple of seconds.

When you call me a moron, dipstick and liar (and democrat, for good measure) who can't do math in one post, it literally just made me smile.

Weird.

I think we all read the occasional Metal Brain post just to feel better about ourselves.

We might say something like, "Man, I haven't achieved quite as much by this point in life as I had hoped when I was 18, but at least I'm not spending every hour of every day shrieking schoolyard insults on an obscure chess site because people don't hold the New York Post in the same esteem as the Encyclopedia Britannica. Yeah. I'm doing all right after all."

@soothfast said
I think we all read the occasional Metal Brain post just to feel better about ourselves.

We might say something like, "Man, I haven't achieved quite as much by this point in life as I had hoped when I was 18, but at least I'm not spending every hour of every day shrieking schoolyard insults on an obscure chess site because people don't hold the New York Post in the same esteem as the Encyclopedia Britannica. Yeah. I'm doing all right after all."

Life.

You're doing it wrong, if this is how you measure it.

@wajoma said
Life.

You're doing it wrong, if this is how you measure it.

Now I'm sure I'm on the right path.

Thanks!

@soothfast said
Now I'm sure I'm on the right path.

Thanks!

We know that, you stated it as an opinion, I stated my opinion, no need for you to restate the same opinion again, thankfully your contributions to this thread have been so few, forget the clotshot, people would have been dropping dead from boredom.

@soothfast said
I think we all read the occasional Metal Brain post just to feel better about ourselves.

We might say something like, "Man, I haven't achieved quite as much by this point in life as I had hoped when I was 18, but at least I'm not spending every hour of every day shrieking schoolyard insults on an obscure chess site because people don't hold the New York Post in the same esteem as the Encyclopedia Britannica. Yeah. I'm doing all right after all."

I like the New York Post. What are you talking about?