@metal-brain saidThat is nonsense. As I already showed you, that figure is not deaths from the vaccines but deaths that took place after vaccinations, with no evidence the vaccines caused the deaths.
That is true. It is at least14,506 you moron.
This is hardly the first time you have been informed of these facts
@metal-brain saidThis is ridiculous. How stupid are you? Most health providers don't work for the US government, but when a government regulation mandates they do something, they are legally obligated to do so.
Most health care providers do NOT work for the FDA, so why would they?
What is your evidence that health care providers are in massive defiance of this legal obligation?
@no1marauder saidHow long after vaccination? 1 month? 1 year?
That is nonsense. As I already showed you, that figure is not deaths from the vaccines but deaths that took place after vaccinations, with no evidence the vaccines caused the deaths.
This is hardly the first time you have been informed of these facts
@no1marauder saidMy brother died 1 year after he took the second Moderna jab. Was his death reported to VAERS? Yes or no?
This is ridiculous. How stupid are you? Most health providers don't work for the US government, but when a government regulation mandates they do something, they are legally obligated to do so.
What is your evidence that health care providers are in massive defiance of this legal obligation?
@metal-brain saidNo that is not “all” DNA and mRNA are very different
Viral Vector Vaccines are gene vaccines too. They use a genetically engineered virus to deliver the gene to your cells. They just have a different delivery system, that is all.
@athousandyoung saidI never said it was "all" DNA.
No that is not “all” DNA and mRNA are very different
Everything I wrote was accurate.
Explain the difference if you can.
@metal-brain saidNo. They did not.
That is true. It is at least14,506 you moron.
This has been pointed out to you many times before.
@metal-brain saidThe viral vector is not the only difference between the DNA and RNA vaccines. You wrote
I never said it was "all" DNA.
Everything I wrote was accurate.
Explain the difference if you can.
Viral Vector Vaccines are gene vaccines too. They use a genetically engineered virus to deliver the gene to your cells. They just have a different delivery system, that is all.
My response was perhaps a little bit unclear.
The different delivery system is not all. The type of gene being delivered is what is important and your insistence on using the phrase "gene vaccine" but refusal to acknowledge the difference between DNA genes and mRNA genes suggests you are trying to frighten your audience instead of making clear scientific statements.
The post you responded to might have been better punctuated as follows:
No, that is not “all”.
DNA and mRNA are very different.
@athousandyoung saidDNA vaccines and mRNA vaccines both use gene therapy technology.
The viral vector is not the only difference between the DNA and RNA vaccines. You wroteViral Vector Vaccines are gene vaccines too. They use a genetically engineered virus to deliver the gene to your cells. They just have a different delivery system, that is all.
My response was perhaps a little bit unclear.
The different delivery system is ...[text shortened]... punctuated as follows:No, that is not “all”.
DNA and mRNA are very different.
Here is the first sentence in this article:
"The DNA vaccine has proven to be one of the most promising applications in the field of gene therapy."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16096015/
@no1marauder saidDepends doesn't it. How thorough the autopsies. Here's a study out of Germany where 25 autopsies of people who died within 20 days of the jab found that 20% clearly showed the vax was responsible. They used special tissue stains which showed spike protein had infiltrated heart tissue, resulting in massive inflammation.
That is nonsense. As I already showed you, that figure is not deaths from the vaccines but deaths that took place after vaccinations, with no evidence the vaccines caused the deaths.
This is hardly the first time you have been informed of these facts
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00392-022-02129-5#Sec3
Ok so we'll play the generous rounding down game an say that 10% of those that died within 20 days of the clot shot were as a result of the vax. This would make Metal Brains 14000 extremely conservative too, in favor of the juice loving control freak exaggerations.
A former juice lover and prominent physician has second thoughts and concerns about the recording of vax related deaths and injuries.
https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/top-doc-flips-stance-on-covid-vax-after-suffering-severe-harm/
So I'll ask again, how many reluctant people are you prepared to write off to your dream feeling BS stats, are you capable of pumping that poison into the arm of someone knowing that it may be lethal and it's something that they vehemently oppose. And is it Ok to lie to people about the majic powers of the juice. We can only assume your falsehoods are unintentional at this stage but time is running out on that excuse.
@wajoma saidUntrue.
Depends doesn't it. How thorough the autopsies. Here's a study out of Germany where 25 autopsies of people who died within 20 days of the jab found that 20% clearly showed the vax was responsible. They used special tissue stains which showed spike protein had infiltrated heart tissue, resulting in massive inflammation.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00392-022- ...[text shortened]... only assume your falsehoods are unintentional at this stage but time is running out on that excuse.
@divegeester
You mean the CDC's nonsense if you are going to insist on that BS denial.
VAERS is widely acknowledged, even by the CDC, to be vastly underreported. From their Dataguide:
"'Under reporting' is one of the main limitations of passive surveillance systems, including VAERS. The term, under reporting, refers to the fact that VAERS receives reports for only a small fraction of actual adverse events. The degree of under reporting varies widely."
https://openvaers.com/faq/what-is-underreporting-and-why-it-matters
14,506 deaths is an underestimate according to the CDC. The CDC said that is a "fraction" of the real amount. So 14,506 deaths is a bare minimum. no1 knows the CDC contradicted themselves and accepts that contradiction as if that makes any sense. That is called "cognitive dissonance".
https://www.britannica.com/science/cognitive-dissonance
cognitive dissonance,
"the mental conflict that occurs when beliefs or assumptions are contradicted by new information. The unease or tension that the conflict arouses in people is relieved by one of several defensive maneuvers: they reject, explain away, or avoid the new information; persuade themselves that no conflict really exists; reconcile the differences; or resort to any other defensive means of preserving stability or order in their conceptions of the world and of themselves. The concept was developed in the 1950s by American psychologist Leon Festinger and became a major point of discussion and research."
Do you have any intention of resolving the contradictions?
If not, you are fooling yourself.