12 Apr 18
Originally posted by @averagejoe1god has nothing to do with it. When did your god think it was a good idea to allow unsuitable people to make babies that nobody would care for?
Thank god, another unborn child saved
12 Apr 18
Originally posted by @romans1009I am sure you watched the video and found it as funny as i do when that lady advised against caring for a child's needs a short while after it's born. Or how uplifting the advice on how to lie to women and manipulate them was. Or how condoms have a 20 percentage fail rate
Have you heard of free will?
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12 Apr 18
Originally posted by @zahlanziI actually didn’t watch the video.
I am sure you watched the video and found it as funny as i do when that lady advised against caring for a child's needs a short while after it's born. Or how uplifting the advice on how to lie to women and manipulate them was. Or how condoms have a 20 percentage fail rate
Originally posted by @romans1009of course you didn't. had no illusion you did.
I actually didn’t watch the video.
you just looked at some words and went with the first thing that popped into your head.
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Originally posted by @zahlanziI was responding to your decision to criticize God for bringing unwanted children into the world. I certainly didn’t need to watch the video to know that post of yours was nonsensical.
of course you didn't. had no illusion you did.
you just looked at some words and went with the first thing that popped into your head.
Sounds like your decision to blame God was the result of what you accused me of.
Projection much?
12 Apr 18
Originally posted by @romans1009it wasn't my post, you were off topic, i tried to remind you what this is about.
I was responding to your decision to criticize God for bringing unwanted children into the world. I certainly didn’t need to watch the video to know that post of yours was nonsensical.
Sounds like your decision to blame God was the result of what you accused me of.
Projection much?
since you brought god into the discussion however, i am sure you also found interesting how these "abortion" clinics encourage women to use birth control so as not to get pregnant and be in a position to "murder" their "babies" so as not to make "God" "angry"
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12 Apr 18
Originally posted by @zahlanziI didn’t bring God into the discussion, and I have no problem with birth control. Birth control is a hell of a lot better than abortion. And I don’t know that God is angry as much as deeply saddened. Who wouldn’t be?
it wasn't my post, you were off topic, i tried to remind you what this is about.
since you brought god into the discussion however, i am sure you also found interesting how these "abortion" clinics encourage women to use birth control so as not to get pregnant and be in a position to "murder" their "babies" so as not to make "God" "angry"
12 Apr 18
Originally posted by @romans1009still not on topic but at least getting closer. the issue wasn't whether you agree with birth control or not but how these "crisis abortion clinics" lie about not only their purpose but also about the effectiveness of birth control.
I didn’t bring God into the discussion, and I have no problem with birth control. Birth control is a hell of a lot better than abortion. And I don’t know that God is angry as much as deeply saddened. Who wouldn’t be?
Originally posted by @romans1009Of course I've heard of free will. How can you exercise your free will not to produce a child you are unwilling or unable to care for, if god-botherers and other fanatics keep trying to prevent abortions? Contraception is a better choice, but not many failures of choice lead to such a life sentence for both the person and any unborn person involved. Unwanted babies don't grow up to have happy lives.
Have you heard of free will?
13 Apr 18
I wouldn't criticize pro-life people for trying to save lives.
It's not like "This woman only has 24 hours to get an abortion or it's all over, and she blew her shot at it because she was too busy talking to a woman who wants her to not have an abortion."
Even if this is deceptive... who would ever be against someone hearing both perspectives before they made a big decision?
A fun note, as well, is that abortion comes with regrets and is oftnen accompanied by need of professional mental health services.
This isn't a small decision:
https://www.colorado.edu/studentgroups/studentsforlife/cost.html
Originally posted by @philokalia"I wouldn't criticize pro-life people for trying to save lives."
I wouldn't criticize pro-life people for trying to save lives.
It's not like "This woman only has 24 hours to get an abortion or it's all over, and she blew her shot at it because she was too busy talking to a woman who wants her to not have an abortion."
Even if this is deceptive... who would ever be against someone hearing both perspectives befo ...[text shortened]... This isn't a small decision:
https://www.colorado.edu/studentgroups/studentsforlife/cost.html
just reiterating that a mass of cells that cannot breathe on its own is not a life. this isn't relevant to the subject but wanted it stated again since you people think biology depends on how you feel on a subject.
"It's not like "This woman only has 24 hours to get an abortion or it's all over"
if you had watched the video you would have been given an example of a woman who went into such a center and was lied over and over until it was too late to have an abortion.
"Even if this is deceptive... who would ever be against someone hearing both perspectives before they made a big decision?"
did you read this sentence of yours? you would want to hear deceptive perspectives before making a big decision? do you find this is in any way logical.
"A fun note, as well, is that abortion comes with regrets and is oftnen accompanied by need of professional mental health services. "
which is why emotionally manipulating and out right torture a woman who came to this very hard decision is a crap thing to do. "fun" though, right?
Nobody would be against such centers to exist. As long as they are honest on what they do. As long as they use real science. As long as they actually help women.
For once in your right winger life, watch a video that doesn't just confirm your pre-held beliefs. Tell me if it is right to lie to people like these centers do. To emotionally manipulate people like these centers do.