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What criteria should be used in a decision making process to determine if a country is justified in considering war as an option? Lets define war as a significant engagement of troops in a hostile invasion of another country and not a relatively peaceful police action used to maintain stability in a world region.

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Can we define all justifications of war on hostile invasion of another country? Are there not wars that don't involve invasion?

If we were talking justification for war, playing devils advocate I'd suggest that protection of your citizens from agressive encroachment on their lives, land and liberties was justification to start military action (once diplomatic means had failed).

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Originally posted by invigorate
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LOL. Yes. And in a broader sense, the interests of corporate America.

Canada better hope we never have a shortage of trees.

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Originally posted by Hand of Hecate
What criteria should be used in a decision making process to determine if a country is justified in considering war as an option? Lets define war as a significant engagement of troops in a hostile invasion of another country and not a relatively peaceful police action used to maintain stability in a world region.

Any thoughts?
Justification in the moral sense? If so whose?

Otherwise I'm tempted to just say "all criteria", which gives you nothing.

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Originally posted by Hand of Hecate
What criteria should be used in a decision making process to determine if a country is justified in considering war as an option? Lets define war as a significant engagement of troops in a hostile invasion of another country and not a relatively peaceful police action used to maintain stability in a world region.

Any thoughts?
http://www.utm.edu/research/iep/j/justwar.htm#The%20<I>Jus%20Ad%20Bellem</I>%20Convention

The principles of the justice of war are commonly held to be: having just cause, being declared by a proper authority, possessing right intention, having a reasonable chance of success, and the end being proportional to the means used.

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Originally posted by Hand of Hecate
What criteria should be used in a decision making process to determine if a country is justified in considering war as an option? Lets define war as a significant engagement of troops in a hostile invasion of another country and not a relatively peaceful police action used to maintain stability in a world region.

Any thoughts?
The criteria are not as important, as doing what is legally and morally correct.

As an example, the war in Iraq was not justified based on the legal and moral principals of the country that declared war on them. The most striking of these legal breaches was "Innocent until proven guilty".

The flip side of course, is that a country with no legal morals (an oxymoron??), is free to do as they please.

Nothing is perfect, but I strove to provide, at least, a balanced opinion.

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Originally posted by Hand of Hecate
What criteria should be used in a decision making process to determine if a country is justified in considering war as an option?
"We have the Maxim gun, and you do not."

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There is no justification for war, or invading another country.

Defending the homeland from invasion I think is justifiable, but it does'nt qualify in this thread. When asked by an ally or weaker country to help defend against an invasion.

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What difference does it make? George Bush made up his own criteria for war. He went against the wishes of the rest of the world and bullied his allies into joining him in a blood bath.
And now we are embroiled in a war which may never end, and in fact may spread to other countries as well.

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Originally posted by elvendreamgirl
What difference does it make? George Bush made up his own criteria for war. He went against the wishes of the rest of the world and bullied his allies into joining him in a blood bath.
And now we are embroiled in a war which may never end, and in fact may spread to other countries as well.
Perhaps war is its own justification. Most people evidently like it since its been going on forever and there are always many wars underway in the world at any given time.

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Originally posted by Delmer
Perhaps war is its own justification. Most people evidently like it since its been going on forever and there are always many wars underway in the world at any given time.
Sad, isn't it?

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Originally posted by elvendreamgirl
Sad, isn't it?
Don't think of it as sad or happy, good or bad, Sarah. It's just the way of the world. Each person creates their own universe.

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Originally posted by invigorate
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Good thing you didn't say Gas, I ate a Burrito Grande that's been wreaking havoc with my intestinal tract all day and the paints starting to peel off the office walls.

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Originally posted by elvendreamgirl
What difference does it make? George Bush made up his own criteria for war. He went against the wishes of the rest of the world and bullied his allies into joining him in a blood bath.
And now we are embroiled in a war which may never end, and in fact may spread to other countries as well.
Question for you: is it wrong to secure a foriegn natural resource if you perceive your countries future depends upon it?

It is obviously in the best interest of much of the Western world to have a stable Middle East and control over the resources therein. Hence the reason we do absolutely nothing about the Rwandan genocide, there's 2/3 thirds of nothing of value in Rwanda. If they were sitting on millions of gallons of oil we'd be in like flint. This is one of unfortunately dozens of examples of ignored attrocities. However, rightly or wrongly I benefit from the US foriegn policies/wars.

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