These ultra left wingers in the democrat party are not doing democrats any good but alienating voters.
When we run we have to get real and admit we have to work with the ultra right wingers in congress and senate.
The country is in enough danger as it is with the ultrarightwingnuts in power like that utterly CRAZY Steve Miller or Vought or Trump or Vance or Patel or Bondi and the rest of the incredibly incompetent BOOBS Trump slithered into his cabinet and worse. Come on, HEGSETH as Defsec?
Trump didn't even know Hegseth canceled the shipment of ALREADY PAID FOR patriot missiles, stopped the shipment to Ukraine UNILATERALLY and Trump had no idea, just shows you in that one example of just how much of a puppet Trump really is. And that is not even talking about his out in the open corruption where he has made more money IN OFFICE than he did as a so called real estate developer.
The democrats who won our recent elections were ALL centerists and that is what it is going to take to win out next year and in '28.
I like bernie Sanders but we can't run a country based on socialism, it won't work and would make things even worse than they are now. We are capitalists and we will STAY capitalist and run things like they were 40 years ago where dems and repubs fought like hell and finally did compromise where neither side got totally what they wanted but a bill is thrashed out and passed and POTUS signs into law.
THOSE days are WAY past now with Trump clearly thinking he is ALREADY a king
and slipping more and more each week into dementia.
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@sonhouse saidCentrist policy is boring and no one wants to vote for boring. The message should be to repeal the deficit-exploding big beautiful bill that only helps the wealthy and did nothing to help working class and middle class Americans, and use the cost savings for free child care and free health care for every citizen in America. If the government can buy a yacht for Tom Brady, it should be able to buy food for regular Americans.
These ultra left wingers in the democrat party are not doing democrats any good but alienating voters.
When we run we have to get real and admit we have to work with the ultra right wingers in congress and senate.
The country is in enough danger as it is with the ultrarightwingnuts in power like that utterly CRAZY Steve Miller or Vought or Trump or Vance or Patel or Bondi ...[text shortened]... th Trump clearly thinking he is ALREADY a king
and slipping more and more each week into dementia.
Big, bold, feasible, and popular. If Sweden can do it, we can do it.
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@wildgrass saidAll well and good but Sweden does not have a political party considering the OTHER party as sworn enemies.
Centrist policy is boring and no one wants to vote for boring. The message should be to repeal the deficit-exploding big beautiful bill that only helps the wealthy and did nothing to help working class and middle class Americans, and use the cost savings for free child care and free health care for every citizen in America.
Big, bold, feasible, and popular. If Sweden can do it, we can do it.
THAT is the present situation with those Thune led repubs in senate and good old Mikey the squeaker of the house, who refused to even sit a duly elected house member and fully went along with the shut down to protect his mentor Trump from even worse corruption Trump has already gotten into, he has made more money as POTUS than he ever did scamming construction companies besides all the other crimes he has been convicted of. I only hope enough voters realize how much of a loser Trump really is and even republicans have had enough of his tearing the government apart and tearing the US apart and vote our Felon in Chief out the door, hopefully directly to prison.
Personally I WELCOME boring. We NEED boring, not our country being torn apart by a would be dictator.
https://www.cato.org/blog/debunking-myth-swedish-socialism-again
@sonhouse saidLOL I follow politics but I didn't even know Thune was the senate majority leader. Republicans in congress don't even do anything. This is another important message that should be broadcast all over the next election.
All well and good but Sweden does not have a political party considering the OTHER party as sworn enemies.
THAT is the present situation with those Thune led repubs in senate and good old Mikey the squeaker of the house, who refused to even sit a duly elected house member and fully went along with the shut down to protect his mentor Trump from even worse corruption Trump ha ...[text shortened]... n he ever did scamming construction companies besides all the other crimes he has been convicted of.
Food prices skyrocketing? The Senate only votes for wealthy tax cuts.
Jobs gone? The Senate pretends the jobs report doesn't even exist.
Can't even keep the government open? What government?
Dudes are a joke. Republicans do a good job in the minority, raising issues about cost and feasibility, but they suuuuuck as leaders.
@wildgrass saidAnd with Trump as POTUS, they are tearing themselves apart over this Epstein issue which looks like it is going to run Trump into the ground and couldn't happen an hour too soon.
LOL I follow politics but I didn't even know Thune was the senate majority leader. Republicans in congress don't even do anything. This is another important message that should be broadcast all over the next election.
Food prices skyrocketing? The Senate only votes for wealthy tax cuts.
Jobs gone? The Senate pretends the jobs report doesn't even exist.
Can't even k ...[text shortened]... a good job in the minority, raising issues about cost and feasibility, but they suuuuuck as leaders.
Did you read this analysis of the Swedish experiment with socialism?
https://www.cato.org/blog/debunking-myth-swedish-socialism-again
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@sonhouse saidMy sister, a born-again Protestant, hates the radical wings of both parties. She's often said that neither party represents what she values, and I think rightly. Most Americans want:
These ultra left wingers in the democrat party are not doing democrats any good but alienating voters.
When we run we have to get real and admit we have to work with the ultra right wingers in congress and senate.
The country is in enough danger as it is with the ultrarightwingnuts in power like that utterly CRAZY Steve Miller or Vought or Trump or Vance or Patel or Bondi ...[text shortened]... th Trump clearly thinking he is ALREADY a king
and slipping more and more each week into dementia.
1. sensible immigration policies with a path to citizenship.
2. not-for-profit, science-based, healthcare, free (or nearly so) at the point of consumption.
3. sensible gun control (there is no good reason for private citizens to be in possession of military-grade weaponry).
4. no religion in the schools or in government.
5. fair and transparent taxation; no more tax cuts for the rich (trickle-down economics was and still is a failure).
6. accountability for all politicians; no immunity from prosecution for anybody, no statute of limitations for some crimes (especially not for rich pedophiles).
7. sensible rent control.
8. a level playing field.
9. fiscal responsibility.
It's pretty simple, nothing terribly radical, yet what party represents all this?
There will not be domestic tranquility until Maslow's bottom two levels are secured:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs
There is nothing 'Communist' about this. But America has utterly failed to secure even the most basic needs of its population. In the land of plenty, over 30 million Americans are living in permanent poverty. For Christ's sake people! That is roughly half the population of England. These are NOT lazy bums who refuse to work; they are decent people who are stuck in permanent-low-wage jobs with no economic mobility because fat-cat employers don't pay living wages. That is the reason there is so much anger in America. It's not 14 million migrants taking away jobs and houses from citizens; it's fat-cats getting tax cuts, charging exorbitant rents and paying low wages.
https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2025/demo/p60-287.html
Trump ain't gonna fix this: he's one of the fat-cats.
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@moonbus saidI believe “your” nine points are great but in the case of the US, it seems that “most” Americans really don’t want them because they voted in Trump, who is not in favour of, well pretty much most, if not all of those points.
My sister, a born-again Protestant, hates the radical wings of both parties. She's often said that neither party represents what she values, and I think rightly. Most Americans want:
1. sensible immigration policies with a path to citizenship.
2. not-for-profit, science-based, healthcare, free (or nearly so) at the point of consumption.
3. sensible gun control (there is ...[text shortened]... library/publications/2025/demo/p60-287.html
Trump ain't gonna fix this: he's one of the fat-cats.
@sonhouse saidYou say” I like Bernie, but you cannot run a country on socialism”. SHouse, everything you write is going right into my journals, but I am perplexed, as YOU appear to be, on this one comment.
These ultra left wingers in the democrat party are not doing democrats any good but alienating voters.
When we run we have to get real and admit we have to work with the ultra right wingers in congress and senate.
The country is in enough danger as it is with the ultrarightwingnuts in power like that utterly CRAZY Steve Miller or Vought or Trump or Vance or Patel or Bondi ...[text shortened]... th Trump clearly thinking he is ALREADY a king
and slipping more and more each week into dementia.
Me…” I like Hitler, he is a strong man and a great leader, demands total respect by everyone around him… But I do not like the way he murdered Jewish people, I think he has killed over 6 million of them so far. I don’t like that part about him.’
Do you write all this while you are operating your lathe??
@sonhouse saidWE are tearing OURseves apart. Ooohhhshouse
And with Trump as POTUS, they are tearing themselves apart over this Epstein issue which looks like it is going to run Trump into the ground and couldn't happen an hour too soon.
Did you read this analysis of the Swedish experiment with socialism?
https://www.cato.org/blog/debunking-myth-swedish-socialism-again
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@Great-Big-Stees saidIt is not true that most Americans voted for Trump. He polled nowhere near 50% +1 of the electorate. Most Americans either voted for Harris (= anybody but Trump) or did not vote. Those who did not vote 'voted' for "none of the above", which confirms my point: neither party is really representative of what most Americans want or value. The two-party system in America is broken.
I believe “your” nine points are great but in the case of the US, it seems that “most” Americans really don’t want them because they voted in Trump, who is not in favour of, well pretty much most, if not all of those points.
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@moonbus saidSorry I guess what I was pointing out was that Trump did win the election and he certainly is not in favour of those points.
It is not true that most Americans voted for Trump. He polled nowhere near 50% +1 of the electorate. Most Americans either voted for Harris (= anybody but Trump) or did not vote. Those who did not vote 'voted' for "none of the above", which confirms my point: neither party is really representative of what most Americans want or value. The two-party system in America is broken.
@moonbus said?????
My sister, a born-again Protestant, hates the radical wings of both parties. She's often said that neither party represents what she values, and I think rightly. Most Americans want:
1. sensible immigration policies with a path to citizenship.
2. not-for-profit, science-based, healthcare, free (or nearly so) at the point of consumption.
3. sensible gun control (there is ...[text shortened]... library/publications/2025/demo/p60-287.html
Trump ain't gonna fix this: he's one of the fat-cats.
1) So the immigration policies have not been sensible for about 125 years?? says you??? 😆
2) Have healthcare where no profit is derived .... A system where everyone who works in the system cannot receive a return on their investment (education, etc) nor on their time , nor on their expertise!!! Let's not forget that. If you need your A/C at home fixed, pay the tech guy for fixing it. You can't fix it.🙂 And he gets paid, but not the doctors. And Bernie would say 'pay them the same, with taxpayer money!!" You are making me dizzy. I am not seeing a reason that my son will go to med school. Plumbing school makes more sense!
3) Sensible gun control is an oxymoron. Get use to it,,,moron!! (sorry)
4). Only an A-hole would write no religion. Jesus Christ.
5). Fair taxation. Of course, you make me sleepy. We have been working on that one for a long time. That the rich pay more than the non-rich is about as far as we have gotten, we have only to adjust the loopholes and credits.....MOST OF WHICH are necessary, little feller. Subsidies save farmer ass.
6). You are def right about accountability. But be careful what you wish for, it would start with Hillary and come right on down, a lot of dems, only a few repubs, if any.
7) What is meant by 'rent control'? Controlled by whom? If I buy 5 rental properties, and decide on how much rent to charge, I am controlling my rent. Can you explain what you mean? Certainly no authority can dictate my legal business practices. If APPLE moves a bunch of rich employees into a building next door, I would DOUBLE my rent big-time. Will I be able to do that, while you are into some control practice of which I am unaware?? Please explain, tho I doubt you will comment on the post.....Because, Moonbus,,,,,you got nuthin. Just like sonhouse. You will not answer these items.
@Great-Big-Stees saidHis points are great??? No religion in schools? Elective? Jihad in one class, Christ in another? To follow your logic, that religion should not be in school, what about teaching capitalism. Tell us, should capitalism be taught in schools? I am assuming you are a communist so would you send your child to that school, or would you get one of the sleazy signs that y’all carry all the time and walk around the school with it?
I believe “your” nine points are great but in the case of the US, it seems that “most” Americans really don’t want them because they voted in Trump, who is not in favour of, well pretty much most, if not all of those points.
@moonbus saidWhat a truly stupid post. As if it has gotta make some difference in all of our posting, …..it is what it is young fella, why keep writing stuff that is what it is. Maybe you and Sunhouse need to carry some signs down to the capital and say we need to change voting laws so that it is like we want it to be🤣😆🤣😆🤣 your friend Susie,says that there should be no electoral college.🥹
It is not true that most Americans voted for Trump. He polled nowhere near 50% +1 of the electorate. Most Americans either voted for Harris (= anybody but Trump) or did not vote. Those who did not vote 'voted' for "none of the above", which confirms my point: neither party is really representative of what most Americans want or value. The two-party system in America is broken.
@Great-Big-Stees saidMany who voted for Trump were bamboozled by him into thinking he was fighting for the little guys. People voted for him because he said he would bring down the price of groceries. Think Maslow's bottom two layers: basic needs, food, shelter, security, healthcare. Trump does not give a damn about people's basic needs, because he was never needy.
Sorry I guess what I was pointing out was that Trump did win the election and he certainly is not in favour of those points.
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Trump spent months during last year's presidential campaign saying that he would lower grocery prices.
He even said in remarks shortly after winning the 2024 election that "when you buy apples, when you buy bacon, when you buy eggs, they would double and triple the price over a short period of time, and I won an election based on that," adding "we're going to bring those prices way down."
What's also damning is that, shortly after he said that, he admitted to Time magazine that it's "very hard" to actually lower grocery prices.
Trump said that one of the key issues Democrats and particularly his opponent, former Vice President Kamala Harris, failed to grasp about the American people is that "they want to be able to buy groceries at a reasonable price and not have to turn off their heat in order to buy two apples."
However, when pressed on whether he could lower grocery costs once in office, Trump acknowledged that he couldn't simply wave a wand to make it happen, even though many of his supporters backed him based on his promises to reduce the cost of living.
It's time to wake up and smell the over-priced coffee, Regina.
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https://www.comicsands.com/trump-groceries-old-fashioned?utm_source=Bluesky&utm_medium=infeed&utm_campaign=linkprogram#Echobox=1763146139
Trump never bought groceries in his life. He has paid servants who do that for him. When the people who voted for him see the consequences of his actual policies and stop listening to his lies, they will wish they hadn't voted for him.
Basic needs must be met for themselves before people can even start to think about securing liberty, fair taxation, fiscal responsibility, and sensible immigration, for their fellow men. People who are hungry will sell their liberty for food, and we're watching it happen right now in America. The list I suggested is what Americans who aren't hungry want and value; it's what Americans used to vote for, when there were candidates who offered them that.