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@Zahlanzi said
5th post where you don't address your claim in the thread title


yes, it's not good. what did you want to propose democrats (and only democrats) do to address it?
Do you seriously think anything I could say to republicans would do any good? They REFUSE to even TALK to dems. All thanks to that FKER Newt Gingrich, he taught republicans to think of democrats as the enemy.
In my mind that makes the Newt (GREAT NAME BTW) a traitor. He perverted the entire legislative branch of our government.

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@boonon said
I would like all of the Epstein files released also. Any and all who abused these kids should be publicly un alived.
No matter WHO the fk they are, dem, repub, independent.
And Trump has NEVER said a fking WORD of sympathy for ANY of the victims, for instance he said he dumped Epstein because he 'stole' his employee, and he could not even bring himself around to name the girl and it happened that girl was the one who later committed suicide and NOTHING from Trump about ANY of that. And the ultrarightwingnuts here don't care about ANY of that, since their lips are superglued to Trumps ass. Not a FKING WORD about the victims.

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@Arkturos said
You should have written Stephen Miller so that nobody gets him mixed up with Steve "Fly Like an Eagle" Miller.

😉
Yeah, certainly not THAT miller. Stephen Miller is the FKING CREEP who convinced Trump to put those 5000 children in cages back in Trump V1. The words I feel here are best left in my own brain.

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@sonhouse said
These ultra left wingers in the democrat party are not doing democrats any good but alienating voters.
When we run we have to get real and admit we have to work with the ultra right wingers in congress and senate.
The country is in enough danger as it is with the ultrarightwingnuts in power like that utterly CRAZY Steve Miller or Vought or Trump or Vance or Patel or Bondi ...[text shortened]... th Trump clearly thinking he is ALREADY a king
and slipping more and more each week into dementia.
Dear Grandpa McRanty-Face, 😉

Maybe I should lead with: I generally agree with you. (But I do get that given your age and wide-ranging life experience these disappointing times really do deserve a rant.)

Maybe "humans first" but with the proviso that we take care of each other and our planetary home.

In some areas (e.g., trans women in sports) I think the Dems could have done better and maybe given a little more ground -- and not just to pull an aikido move -- but could have said, "yeah, that makes sense -- now let's figure out how to decide who can play on which teams."

I don't think it helps that the rather self-important Billie Eilish has tried to scold the economic vampires into giving back to everyone on Earth upon whom they have battened, because she has always looked full of hatred and spite herself, and more than a little sanpaku if you ask me.

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@sonhouse said
Yeah, certainly not THAT miller. Stephen Miller is the FKING CREEP who convinced Trump to put those 5000 children in cages back in Trump V1. The words I feel here are best left in my own brain.
That's completely understandable, but I think some of the internal alchemists here would advise against that.

Harboring such thoughts is more likely to poison you yourself than Stephen Miller.

Also, who knows why he turned out the way he did? Despite all the evidence to the contrary, maybe he also deserves some sympathy.

And of course some of us might also be wondering if Trump might be a different kind of Chauncey Gardiner. 😉

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@Arkturos said
That's completely understandable, but I think some of the internal alchemists here would advise against that.

Harboring such thoughts is more likely to poison you yourself than Stephen Miller.

Also, who knows why he turned out the way he did? Despite all the evidence to the contrary, maybe he also deserves some sympathy.

And of course some of us might also be wondering if Trump might be a different kind of Chauncey Gardiner. 😉
ANYONE who shoves FIVE THOUSAND CHILDREN in cages NEVER deserves anything like sympathy. Miller AND Trump are sociopaths, AT LEAST. Dr John Gardner says Trump has Malignant Narcissism and he said when he saw Trump campaigning for his first run, he saw it as a asteroid crashing into Earth.


@sonhouse said
ANYONE who shoves FIVE THOUSAND CHILDREN in cages NEVER deserves anything like sympathy. Miller AND Trump are sociopaths, AT LEAST. Dr John Gardner says Trump has Malignant Narcissism and he said when he saw Trump campaigning for his first run, he saw it as a asteroid crashing into Earth.
OK, so withhold your sympathy, for whatever effect that might have on anything.

Do you ever pray for Trump and Miller and send blessings their way?

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@Arkturos said
OK, so withhold your sympathy, for whatever effect that might have on anything.

Do you ever pray for Trump and Miller and send blessings their way?
Not likely, as someone who swings between Atheism and agnostic so prayer to me is a placebo. I also think ALL religions are 100% man made, no god required whether there is one or not.


@sonhouse said
Not likely, as someone who swings between Atheism and agnostic so prayer to me is a placebo. I also think ALL religions are 100% man made, no god required whether there is one or not.
But as a musician, haven't you ever considered testing the waters with your mind?

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@Arkturos said
But as a musician, haven't you ever considered testing the waters with your mind?
I write a tune a day usually and post my acoustic tunes on Sound Cloud, up to 516 tracks there now, including some songs from wife and family and friends.

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@sonhouse said
Do you seriously think anything I could say to republicans would do any good? They REFUSE to even TALK to dems. All thanks to that FKER Newt Gingrich, he taught republicans to think of democrats as the enemy.
In my mind that makes the Newt (GREAT NAME BTW) a traitor. He perverted the entire legislative branch of our government.
6th post where you don't address the claim you made in the title of the thread


@AverageJoe1 said
This one says that money that I pay in taxes can be used by losers, who pay no taxes. That is what he is saying. He cannot deny, that that is what he is saying. Further, if it is used to house or medicate the loser, or to pay for his daughter's abortion, or for her tuition loan, then I , AvJoe the taxpayer,,,,,,,follow me here....am paying, as a taxpayer funding those expenses, for that loser's bills.

Take a shower, Zahlanzi
no, you are saying that. you've invented an entire class of fictional people that don't do anything, claim it's a substantial drain on the economy and why nobody should have any social program while billionaires should continue to get tax cats.

yes, abortion is healthcare. it should be covered by taxes.
yes, education is beneficial to society, there should be free colleges.
yes housing is a right and beneficial to society, it's cheaper to house someone than have them living on the street
yes, healthcare is a right, everyone should have it and you're a sociopath for worrying that a measly percentage of taxes is going to a guy with cancer but not worry that billionaires get tax cuts, again. And a dumb sociopath at that

I just don't have the energy to ever bother with you more than a couple of sentences

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@Zahlanzi said
no, you are saying that. you've invented an entire class of fictional people that don't do anything, claim it's a substantial drain on the economy and why nobody should have any social program while billionaires should continue to get tax cats.

yes, abortion is healthcare. it should be covered by taxes.
yes, education is beneficial to society, there should be free colle ...[text shortened]... path at that

I just don't have the energy to ever bother with you more than a couple of sentences
'Don't have the energy'. as my granny would say,'i'm so sorry..'

Everyone, frame this one.
Zahlanzi is saying that education should be free. A true liberal (you guys) would have to say that for it be free to every person, it has to be fair, and that means college. Free. Free professors, the works. All free.

Free abortions to girls who change their minds after getting pregnant.
Free housing. For everyone, as it would be discriminatory to limit availability. Yes, free housing.
Free healthcare. 340M people leaning on a medical society of 'medical experts' 😆 to perform untold procedures. Don't get me started. You would wait 4 years to get a knee hackjob.
Free Food. He didn't say that, but logic would have it that as Z says these things are beneficial to sociiiieety,', then food is beneficial to society.
Zahlanize, you are going to tell us why food is not included in your list???

Editor's Note: He mentions billionaires twice. For some reason. Since he is factoring them in for some reason to this 'Free Stuff' post, I thought that I would count them. We have 902 Billionaires in the USA. Zahlaniz is going to tell us how their existence is relevant to the govt giving free stuff to 340M people.

And,,,,,hey.....his list ain't half of the free stuff that Z wants.

After he surely answers, I will then ask him if people will take advantage of the freebies. 'Hey, John, we can afford more children, we (340M) can all go up in the world, we can live off the government. You do not have to provide like you used to. You don't have to be a man anymore. You can be what AvJoe calls a faeirie.""


@sonhouse said
Do you seriously think anything I could say to republicans would do any good? They REFUSE to even TALK to dems. All thanks to that FKER Newt Gingrich, he taught republicans to think of democrats as the enemy.
In my mind that makes the Newt (GREAT NAME BTW) a traitor. He perverted the entire legislative branch of our government.
, But, but,….. you little fellow are not seeing the big picture about the country. Take Zahlanzi suggests above.
Please read what he wrote, and then let me ask you this one question. If he got his way, and everything was free I would like for you to give me an honest adult answer to how you think this country will experience any growth… Growth somehouuse …would we be able to grow With the allocation of funds as he sees?


@AverageJoe1 said
'Don't have the energy'. as my granny would say,'i'm so sorry..'

Everyone, frame this one.
Zahlanzi is saying that education should be free. A true liberal (you guys) would have to say that for it be free to every person, it has to be fair, and that means college. Free. Free professors, the works. All free.
What bugs me about the free-education people is that education in America IS free, up to the 12th grade, after that it's on you if you want to go to college.
I see no problem with that.