29 Aug 07
Originally posted by 667joeCall your congressman.
If Iraq is as important to us as W says, let's draft a large army and use it to get this war over with. If it's not important enough to have a draft, let's get out of Iraq as soon as possible. In other words, let's do it right or not at all!
Originally posted by 667joeInstead of a draft, how about allowing foreign nationals (eg. Mexicans) the opportunity to serve in the US armed forces in exchange for citizenship? Informed tactical decisions would keep the number of new citizens to a minimum, while saving lives of real US citizens.
If Iraq is as important to us as W says, let's draft a large army and use it to get this war over with. If it's not important enough to have a draft, let's get out of Iraq as soon as possible. In other words, let's do it right or not at all!
29 Aug 07
Originally posted by Bosse de Nage😲
Instead of a draft, how about allowing foreign nationals (eg. Mexicans) the opportunity to serve in the US armed forces in exchange for citizenship? Informed tactical decisions would keep the number of new citizens to a minimum, while saving lives of real US citizens.
Wow, I hope that that was a joke.
As a European who was against the declaration of war in the first place (and still believe it was a pretty silly thing to do), I have to agree with the concept of "Now that it's started, do everything that is necessary to get it finished" Drafts aren't the only option, but whatever is needed to "get the job done" should be done. Not just by the US either I have to say.
29 Aug 07
Originally posted by 667joeThis assumes that putting more troops in Iraq would get the job done.
If Iraq is as important to us as W says, let's draft a large army and use it to get this war over with. If it's not important enough to have a draft, let's get out of Iraq as soon as possible. In other words, let's do it right or not at all!
29 Aug 07
Originally posted by Bosse de NageGood idea, but sadly, Mexicans are too valuable to expend on the battlefield.
Instead of a draft, how about allowing foreign nationals (eg. Mexicans) the opportunity to serve in the US armed forces in exchange for citizenship? Informed tactical decisions would keep the number of new citizens to a minimum, while saving lives of real US citizens.
Maybe we could recruit Palestinians instead.
29 Aug 07
Originally posted by 667joeHaven't you been paying attention -- a draft is unnecessary since the Surge is working.
If Iraq is as important to us as W says, let's draft a large army and use it to get this war over with. If it's not important enough to have a draft, let's get out of Iraq as soon as possible. In other words, let's do it right or not at all!
29 Aug 07
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Originally posted by agrysonIt can't be finished. Unless you are advocating killing everyone.
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Wow, I hope that that was a joke.
As a European who was against the declaration of war in the first place (and still believe it was a pretty silly thing to do), I have to agree with the concept of "Now that it's started, do everything that is necessary to get it finished" Drafts aren't the only option, but whatever is needed to "get the job done" should be done. Not just by the US either I have to say.
Because that's what is meant by, "finishing the job". But for every one you kill you create how many more? Never ending
29 Aug 07
Originally posted by uzlessSorry, that's not what I meant by finishing the job clearly, but it's not stepped up military action I'm necessarily proposing, moreso a commitment to see it through to the end. The "surge" cannot last indefinitely and came much too late I feel. But a strong military presence will be needed for possibly several decades to come. As long as there is a clear separation between the military troops there and the government.
It can't be finished. Unless you are advocating killing everyone.
Because that's what is meant by, "finishing the job". But for every one you kill you create how many more? Never ending
It has ended in Northern Ireland for all intents and purposes, through a combined use of military policing and diplomatic reform.
Neither diplomats nor soldiers can do their jobs effectively without the other.
31 Aug 07
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Originally posted by Bosse de NageForeigners can join if they have been granted permanent residence. Also I found this:
Instead of a draft, how about allowing foreign nationals (eg. Mexicans) the opportunity to serve in the US armed forces in exchange for citizenship? Informed tactical decisions would keep the number of new citizens to a minimum, while saving lives of real US citizens.
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/comsite5/bin/pdinventory.pl?pdlanding=1&referid=2930&purchase_type=ITM&item_id=0286-26296012
31 Aug 07
Originally posted by Sargent CarpfaceIf that was in reference to me (please use reply and quote) I was saying that a soldier without a diplomat will never be able to stop fighting, while a diplomat without a soldier will never really be taken seriously.
Ok. I have no idea what you just said
31 Aug 07
Originally posted by 667joeGreat idea. The war in Iraq would end due to all the draft protesters, and we would overrun Canada with all our draft dodgers and make it our 51st state without a shot fired. A win win situation.
If Iraq is as important to us as W says, let's draft a large army and use it to get this war over with. If it's not important enough to have a draft, let's get out of Iraq as soon as possible. In other words, let's do it right or not at all!
01 Sep 07
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Originally posted by smw6869With all our able bodied citizens in Iraq and the able minded citizens in Canada Mexico would invade us.
Great idea. The war in Iraq would end due to all the draft protesters, and we would overrun Canada with all our draft dodgers and make it our 51st state without a shot fired. A win win situation.
01 Sep 07
Originally posted by 667joeIf you had about a hundred shoggoths and a few moveable Elder Signs, all your problems would be history.
If Iraq is as important to us as W says, let's draft a large army and use it to get this war over with. If it's not important enough to have a draft, let's get out of Iraq as soon as possible. In other words, let's do it right or not at all!