Does a good deed done by an evil person become evil?

@KellyJay said
Well, go to the Spiritual form and stay out of this thread; your problem is solved.

You already have this same thread in the "Spirituality Forum." Maybe post it in the "Site Idea's" form next eh? 🙂

@KellyJay said
No concern should bother anyone about a non-existent threat. Morally advanced people are an oxymoron. What do you see in today’s generation’s behavior that makes you think they are any better than those in the past? The fact that they think they can do whatever they want without consequence, simply by denying that anyone can do anything to them, or should do to them? May ...[text shortened]... e do that? If they do not value the same things, what is important to one will not be to the other.

I refer you to stages of moral development. There are several similar ladders of moral development, Kohlberg’s being one of the better known. Familiarize yourself with the concept, and we can continue the discussion.

https://www.simplypsychology.org/kohlberg.html

@KingDavid403 said
This thread clearly belongs in the "Spirituality Forum;" seeing that your question to others is a spiritual question, is it not? The rest is nothing but you mis-guided spiritual opinions.

There is a duplicate thread in the Spirituality Forum, to which I do not wish to contribute.I’m quite happy to debate moral and psychological issues in this thread.

@moonbus said
There is a duplicate thread in the Spirituality Forum, to which I do not wish to contribute.I’m quite happy to debate moral and psychological issues in this thread.

Either way, it is a spiritual question; you can break it down for yourself however you wish. Morality is spirituality; and, this is a Spiritual question.
Note taken that you did NOT want to discuss it in it's proper forum. lol.... Whatever dude...

@KingDavid403 said
This thread clearly belongs in the "Spirituality Forum;" seeing that your question to others is a spiritual question, is it not? The rest is nothing but you mis-guided spiritual opinions.

ogod, i was afraid he will show up. Has the trappings of marauder. They both need to loosen up.
How bout some humor from these two? Like, they could write something like an evil man rescues a kitten, ....Should the kitten object on principle?
If Saint Thomas steals my last cookie, am I supposed to call it charity?
I for one appreciate your post.
Now I will go do one good deed, and one evil deed, to confuse history!

@KingDavid403 said
No. You properly post threads in their correct forums; problem solved. Is this not a rule here at RHP? If not, it should be.

So you suggest that you and sonhouse follow Forum rules😀😀🤔😀😀🐮😆

@moonbus said
I refer you to stages of moral development. There are several similar ladders of moral development, Kohlberg’s being one of the better known. Familiarize yourself with the concept, and we can continue the discussion.

https://www.simplypsychology.org/kohlberg.html

An ever-changing stage of development is a mutable standard always in flux, and you think this is a good thing? Exactly how do you know it is getting better and not worse if it’s always changing? Do you see murderers and such crimes going away with this advanced development? I have to work to strict standards all the time to see if what we are working on is doing what we want it to, and your standard keeps changing, which isn’t much of a standard. I’d also like to know who holds whom to this ever-changing standard?

@Indonesia-Phil said
This was in danger of becoming an interesting talking point, until you (inevitably) introduced your god into the discussion. Any judgement upon any action should not be based upon love or hatred of anything or anybody, but from a position of neutrality.

Any judgment that isn’t the same for all is more of a personal preference, not much of a judgment, don’t you think? Like if I condemned someone for something I myself do.

@KellyJay said
Does a good deed done by what we call an evil person does that mean the deed is now evil? When an evil deed is done by what we call a good person, does that mean that the deed is now good?

If we only see evil when we see some people, or only see good when we see some people, no matter what it is they are doing, are we viewing things properly, or have our eyes become dull ...[text shortened]... ee who we like and dislike, good and evil will be defined by the people, not by what they are doing.

You first have to define evil. If I set mouse traps is that evil? That is different than killing your dog. Is that evil? Some people would think so I am sure.

Is killing a terrorist evil? If so, you then have to define terrorism. Trump called Maduro a narco terrorist. Did he kill anybody? If not then Trump is the true terrorist. Right?

Trump says Iran is a terrorist nation. What terrorism? Hezbollah is not Iran. Can a country be a terrorist state by proxy? Now you have to define proxy. What is a proxy? Is an ally a proxy? What is the difference?

@KellyJay said
Well, go to the Spiritual form and stay out of this thread; your problem is solved.

I remember when the Spirituality Forum was created specifically so people like you wouldn't post threads like this in Debates.

Back in the day the God Squad used to spam this forum to the point of uselessness.

@KingDavid403 said
Either way, it is a spiritual question; you can break it down for yourself however you wish. Morality is spirituality; and, this is a Spiritual question.
Note taken that you did NOT want to discuss it in it's proper forum. lol.... Whatever dude...

It is possible to discuss morality without God, though, I admit, not for KellyJay.

@AThousandYoung said
I remember when the Spirituality Forum was created specifically so people like you wouldn't post threads like this in Debates.

Back in the day the God Squad used to spam this forum to the point of uselessness.

I post and this time I did bring Him up first, more times than not that is not the case. Know one is forcing you to read or join.this or any other conversation.

@KellyJay said
I post and this time I did bring Him up first, more times than not that is not the case. Know one is forcing you to read or join.this or any other conversation.

You're lucky I don't report posts.

@AThousandYoung said
I remember when the Spirituality Forum was created specifically so people like you wouldn't post threads like this in Debates.

Back in the day the God Squad used to spam this forum to the point of uselessness.

Agreed.

If posters cannot even post in the right forum then maybe just ignore them and not respond.

As a PS - maybe Russ could include a 'wrong forum' when someone wants to report a post / thread.

@Martin said
Agreed.

If posters cannot even post in the right forum then maybe just ignore them and not respond.

As a PS - maybe Russ could include a 'wrong forum' when someone wants to report a post / thread.

We should not have to deal with spam. This is like those constant telephone calls we have to deal with in the USA. Ridiculous.