Does a good deed done by an evil person become evil?

@KellyJay said
I agree that treating others as objects to be used and abused is bad, but it is not at all abolished; sexual slavery is still happening, and I imagine all other types as well, but not as out in the open in some places as it is in others.

All of your examples are not done away with; people are still getting thrown off rooftops, beheaded, shot in the streets, lying, stealin ...[text shortened]... more lethal at it, so not killing one way doesn't mean we have stopped in other ways. Improvements?

Yes, murders are happening. Most people however are not murderers; murderers are tiny proportion of the total population. Yes, rapes are happening. Most people however are not rapists; rapists are tiny proportion of the total population. Some people are just under-evolved.

You have not shown me why those who practice them are doing something wrong...

If most people were as morally 'broken' as you say, if most people most of the time committed homicides, theft, rape, false witness, dishonored their parents, and the rest of the horrible things you point to, no society would survive past three generations to pass on its faulty genes. If mothers did not care for their children, their genes would not propagate past even one generation. That is what shows you what has long-term survival value and what leads to a dead-end.

Cooperation and mutual support have proven to have long-term survival value. That is how h.saps prevailed over large-toothed predators. Alone, we are weak and vulnerable, no claws, no fangs, no armor, no camouflage. Cooperation is the key to survival. Character traits which encourage cooperation, such as honesty, integrity, keeping promises, willingness to help people you do not know personally, standing one's ground shoulder-to-shoulder when a tiger is lurking the grass, are positively selected and eventually called "moral virtues."

Whereas, character traits which undermine cooperation, avarice, selfishness, lying, cheating, breaking promises, arrogance, betrayal, bullying, fake victimhood, etc., may get one or another person into positions of power where he can make rules to suit himself for a short time, but in the long run these are counter-productive and lead to a backlash and ostracism from the offended community.

@moonbus said
Yes, murders are happening. Most people however are not murderers; murderers are tiny proportion of the total population. Yes, rapes are happening. Most people however are not rapists; rapists are tiny proportion of the total population. Some people are just under-evolved.

You have not shown me why those who practice them are doing something wrong...

If most peop ...[text shortened]... g run these are counter-productive and lead to a backlash and ostracism from the offended community.

We are all capable of being the victim. the attacker, or a blind eye witness as well as one who would step up. You can look at what people do today and see all the evil we abhor in the last.

@KellyJay said
We are all capable of being the victim. the attacker, or a blind eye witness as well as one who would step up. You can look at what people do today and see all the evil we abhor in the last.

You see only evil in people. That's your flaw.

I try to see the good. "I have always depended on the kindness of strangers." Is that such a bad attitude?

"Become the change you want to see." --Gandhi

@moonbus said
You see only evil in people. That's your flaw.

I try to see the good. "I have always depended on the kindness of strangers." Is that such a bad attitude?

"Become the change you want to see." --Gandhi

I never once said there is only evil in people, please stop making claims about me that are not true. Do you deny there is evil in people along with the good?

@KellyJay said
I never once said there is only evil in people, please stop making claims about me that are not true. Do you deny there is evil in people along with the good?

I don't harp on it the way you do. I don't hold the view that people are evil by nature, just because some people sometimes do bad things. Outright evil is actually pretty rare in humans.

@moonbus said
I don't harp on it the way you do. I don't hold the view that people are evil by nature, just because some people sometimes do bad things. Outright evil is actually pretty rare in humans.

When looking at anything pure if a contamination gets mixed in it is no longer pure. So if any part of us can and does take us to being evil as lusting, lying, hating another and so on we are not holy. Over and over it was put to people if something evil touches something good, does that make the evil good, would something evil touch good would the good remain good? Perfect sacrifices if they get flawed are no longer perfect.

Where do you draw the line on how many bad things one can do before you say they are bad?

@KellyJay said
When looking at anything pure if a contamination gets mixed in it is no longer pure. So if any part of us can and does take us to being evil as lusting, lying, hating another and so on we are not holy. Over and over it was put to people if something evil touches something good, does that make the evil good, would something evil touch good would the good remain good? Perfec ...[text shortened]... erfect.

Where do you draw the line on how many bad things one can do before you say they are bad?

This sounds very much like the Nuremberg Laws to me: if there is one tiny drop of Jewish blood in you, you're not pure enough to be Aryan.

If there was one fib you told when you were 6, it nullifies all the good you do the rest of your life--is that what you're saying?

@KellyJay said
Go respond there I put in both.

Sorry, I'm not giving you any more oxygen.

Oxygen you apparently cannot get in the Spirituality Forum and so now here you are, infecting the Debates Forum with what got no traction in Spirituality.

Are you going to start posting all your twisted religious dogma here now?

@moonbus said
This sounds very much like the Nuremberg Laws to me: if there is one tiny drop of Jewish blood in you, you're not pure enough to be Aryan.

If there was one fib you told when you were 6, it nullifies all the good you do the rest of your life--is that what you're saying?

I’m telling you that God is not bound by time as we are; He transcends it, so each and every single moment we experience, He experiences as if we were in the now. So everything, every word, every deed, every thought, is always before Him. This has nothing at all to do with me comparing myself to you or anyone else. We all have flaws and have done wrong, and they stick with us forever.

@KellyJay said
I am not sure what you are looking at and comparing things to when you suggest things are getting better? Is it how people are taking things into thier own hands to right what they think are wrongs?

Better to have a handful of vigilantes (the French called it the Resistance) than to have a nation of spineless, beaten-down cowards.