@KellyJay saidAnd normally following an agenda, such as calling evil good, or alternatively, calling good evil, in order to confuse men. This is opinion, as much as you like to insist that your way is God's way. Forum posts, however, are divided by subject, and this belongs in Spirituality.
I agree, so good and evil are stand-alone things apart from people; we can do both. We can be the attacker, the attacked, or a witness, active or passive.
Or are you one of these people seen* on street corners, preaching a sermon that people would ordinarily have to go to their church to hear, so that you can force it into the ears of those who would normally choose not to hear it?
* 'Seen' is the key here. Just as those who prefer they work their alms and prayer before men (so they may be seen), rather than seeking out their deity privately in humble prayer.
@KellyJay saidWhen you purposely post in the wrong forum because you seek to 'reach more people' with your anti-social behavior, yes, I think it is against normal forum behavior.
Every post here people who open and read will always be subject to the posts themselves. You think something is wrong about that?
@Suzianne saidDo you think anything that is not is true, is part of reality? Maybe if you define truth by what you think, but that is not truth that is your opinion. Opinions can be right or wrong, unless you think you are the exception where what you think is always right and true.
And this is why you fail.
@Suzianne saidI posted something that the following conversation brought up that topic for me. But from here on out someone else will have to bring that up. Is it your desire to keep that conversation going?
When you purposely post in the wrong forum because you seek to 'reach more people' with your anti-social behavior, yes, I think it is against normal forum behavior.
@Suzianne saidYou want to talk about God?
And normally following an agenda, such as calling evil good, or alternatively, calling good evil, in order to confuse men. This is opinion, as much as you like to insist that your way is God's way. Forum posts, however, are divided by subject, and this belongs in Spirituality.
Or are you one of these people seen* on street corners, preaching a sermon that people would ...[text shortened]... re men (so they may be seen), rather than seeking out their deity privately in humble prayer.
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@Suzianne saidmore abundant life in the here and now.
You speak like a Calvinist.
Religion is not (or shouldn't be) about punishment.
It is about the Good News (each religion has their own version of this) and the way to a better, more abundant life in the here and now. It is NOT about judging and punishing those who you feel do not conform. That is the way of evil.
The here and now is Satan's world. Your own desires.
Your eternal salvation is what Jesus preached. Or your eternal damnation.
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@moonbus saidIt is possible to discuss morality without God,
It is possible to discuss morality without God, though, I admit, not for KellyJay.
Yes, it is possible, but seems rather confining to me. Can you describe where you think that this "morality" comes from? How about love? etc?
though, I admit, not for KellyJay.
It's not easy for I either.
@KingDavid403 saidI do not under your question, where morality comes from. Where does physics come from? Where does zoology come from? Where does cartography come from? Nothing useful or even moderately enlightening would constitute an answer to such questions.
It is possible to discuss morality without God,
Yes, it is possible, but seems rather confining to me. Can you describe where you think that this "morality" comes from? How about love? etc?
though, I admit, not for KellyJay.
It's not easy for I either.
Where do Porsches come from? I can answer you that. The company headquarters is in Stuttgart.
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@Indonesia-Phil saidI see the danger as personal presences being past off as an enlighten standards, that justifies everything one wants to call right and the proper way of behave.
This was in danger of becoming an interesting talking point, until you (inevitably) introduced your god into the discussion. Any judgement upon any action should not be based upon love or hatred of anything or anybody, but from a position of neutrality.