@AverageJoe1 saidA better question is:
Yes they can petition till the cows come home.
The question is do they have a RIGHT to govt funds, they do not. What is it with you libs beating wrong dead horses.
I have never mentioned students as to Harvard getting govt funds...you need to write that somewhere else.
Can the Executive Department withhold federal funds authorized by law from a university simply because it refuses to punish students for engaging in political activities the government doesn't approve of?
@sonhouse saidWhy so obtuse, Sonhouse? I asked if they have a RIGHT to government funds. You said that they do, and then after I corrected you that they do NOT, replete with a proper link confirming same, you write back that they have a "Right to APPLY".
What the HELL is your problem? I already said you can apply but that doesn't mean you are going to get your benefit whatever that is.
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Why be so obtuse? You could be nice, and say, you are right Joe, they have no actual Right, like say the right of indigents to collect welfare, but I think it would be OK if the apply for such funds.
Geez
@no1marauder saidYes. And why bother with their 'reason' for withholding it? The government could say we don't have enough to give you this year, we are going to use it to pay off tuition loans of all students in eight western states, we are so sorry. A reason for not doing so would not be required.
A better question is:
Can the Executive Department withhold federal funds authorized by law from a university simply because it refuses to punish students for engaging in political activities the government doesn't approve of?
@AverageJoe1 saidYou're wrong; the Executive Department can't withhold funds for unconstitutional reasons.
Yes. And why bother with their 'reason' for withholding it? The government could say we don't have enough to give you this year, we are going to use it to pay off tuition loans of all students in eight western states, we are so sorry. A reason for not doing so would not be required.
@spruce112358 saidIf we stay on point, please, my query is if the university is entitled to govt funds, like indigents are to welfare. Pretty simple, one subject.
And we answered that a representative government has the responsibility to disburse public funds as it sees fit, and if they do a bad job you vote them out of office and get someone better.
You think it is 'unnatural' and 'upsetting' for American students not to be pro-Israeli Zionists?
That must be unpleasant. I hope the feeling goes away. 😆
Your first paragraph is a given, even Suzianne knows that.
Then,...THEN...you ask what 'I think' about Zionists!??!??!?! What in the hell?
I never mentioned international, students, zionists, palestine, Israel or anything other than does the Univ have a right to govt money. You libs are obsessed. You and Sonhouse need debate school,, maybe you can get the govt to pay for it.
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@no1marauder saidAre you saying that the Private University has a right to govt funds? You are talking in circles again, but you can't kid a kidder.
You're wrong; the Executive Department can't withhold funds for unconstitutional reasons.
How bout one of those old yes or no answers, like your grandaddy used to use.
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@sonhouse saidwriting to yourself again. too long. Too many issues. Bird flu?!?!
So killing scientific research is the best way to 'protect' America?
I can tell you this: CHINA is dancing in the street over Trump cutting all research.
No more bird flu science, no more Aids research, no more measles research, no more covid variant research.
No more NOAH, who the hell needs all those weather forecasts? Tornado coming? Whoopie DOO, get down to the baseme ...[text shortened]... tary attacks to destroy our security in science AND military, we are killing all off that ourselves.
@AverageJoe1 saidI know you hate to read links but:https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/5310489-trumps-gambit-of-withholding-federal-dollars-will-be-ruled-unconstitutional/
Yes. And why bother with their 'reason' for withholding it? The government could say we don't have enough to give you this year, we are going to use it to pay off tuition loans of all students in eight western states, we are so sorry. A reason for not doing so would not be required.
@no1marauder saidIt may.
I know you hate to read links but:https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/5310489-trumps-gambit-of-withholding-federal-dollars-will-be-ruled-unconstitutional/
But why don't you answer?
@AverageJoe1 saidNo. Only individuals have rights.
Are you saying that the Private University has a right to govt funds? You are talking in circles again, but you can't kid a kidder.
How bout one of those old yes or no answers, like your grandaddy used to use.
@AverageJoe1 saidAnd if you were in power you would prevent ANYONE from getting ANYTHING from government money.
Why so obtuse, Sonhouse? I asked if they have a RIGHT to government funds. You said that they do, and then after I corrected you that they do NOT, replete with a proper link confirming same, you write back that they have a "Right to APPLY".
Why be so obtuse? You could be nice, and say, you are right Joe, they have no actual Right, like say the right of indigents to collect welfare, but I think it would be OK if the apply for such funds.
Geez
@AverageJoe1 saidYeah, I forgot. Reading and comprehending an entire paragraph is beyond your limited capabilities.
writing to yourself again. too long. Too many issues. Bird flu?!?!
@no1marauder saidThank you. Let the record show that No1 confirms that the University does not have rights to government funds.
No. Only individuals have rights.
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@no1marauder saidOk .. If you are correct, then there is no such thing as 'hate speech'. Supporting, and speaking up for, organisations, whose aim is to kill a group of people is hate speech.
You'd lose; the right to free speech is an integral part of any just society not a design flaw.
Check on this and let me know if free speech includes hate speech.