@no1marauder saidThis answer is also not related to my initial text above. My question was whether he asked to falsify the election results or, instead, to find the cases of falsified results.
Yes, you have:
"Solicitation is an inchoate crime that involves seeking out another person to engage in a criminal act. A defendant may be charged with solicitation if he or she requests or induces another person to commit an act that would amount to a felony. "
https://www.justia.com/criminal/offenses/inchoate-crimes/solicitation/
@no1marauder saidThanks.
The election in Georgia was certified no later than December 14th, when the electors met in the State Capitol. A recount of every single ballot by hand was completed by November 20th.
There were no votes to "find"; Raffensberger repeatedly informed Trump that his claims of fraud were baseless.
@mott-the-hoople saidHe tried to rob 80 million Americans of their vote.
When did Trump do this? you look like a fool coming up with these scenarios that are not relevant to the situation.
it is illegal to rob someone, it is not illegal to contest an election.
@averagejoe1 saidWhat is wrong with you?
What threat?
Oh, wait, you're a Republican.
You wouldn't have a problem with your president "shooting someone on 5th Avenue".
OR subverting democracy.
@eintaluj saidThere were no "falsified results".
This answer is also not related to my initial text above. My question was whether he asked to falsify the election results or, instead, to find the cases of falsified results.
He wasn't asking for "false" anything. He wanted the GA SoS to find more votes for him, despite the results being certified multiple times. I'm sure he wouldn't care if they were actually false.
"Raffensperger's office investigated claims of 66,000 underage voters and found none. They investigated claims of 2,423 unregistered voters, and found zero. They investigated claims of 2,056 felons voting, and identified less than 74."
https://www.npr.org/2022/06/21/1106472863/georgia-officials-fact-check-infamous-trump-phone-call-in-real-time
@suzianne saidI asked ‘What threat?”
What is wrong with you?
Oh, wait, you're a Republican.
You wouldn't have a problem with your president "shooting someone on 5th Avenue".
OR subverting democracy.
And this was your answer? Note that Kewpie wrote off-the-rails as well. What is y’all’s common thread? That is, you guys’ common thread, however you say it.
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@mott-the-hoople saidEvery ballot in the State, more than 5 million, was hand counted.https://www.ajc.com/politics/breaking-georgia-manual-recount-confirms-biden-victory/B7LNNHYZOVGKZBUVAT7NZT3VZE/
this recount, was that one county or the entire state?
Where was Raffensberger going to legally "find" Trump approximately 12,000 more votes?
@mott-the-hoople saidI am not in America, I am incompetent to answer.
this recount, was that one county or the entire state?
@suzianne saidMy question was whether he asked to falsify results or to find more violations, including falsified results, to dispute them.
There were no "falsified results".
He wasn't asking for "false" anything. He wanted the GA SoS to find more votes for him, despite the results being certified multiple times. I'm sure he wouldn't care if they were actually false.
"Raffensperger's office investigated claims of 66,000 underage voters and found none. They investigated claims of 2,423 unregistered voters ...[text shortened]... ww.npr.org/2022/06/21/1106472863/georgia-officials-fact-check-infamous-trump-phone-call-in-real-time
Thus, I think there might be an important difference between two variants:
A) T believes that J has committed a crime and demands to discover these crimes because it is useful to T.
B) T demands to set up, and fake the crimes of J because it is useful to T.
In the first case, if T demands too intensively to discover the crimes, it may in practice amount to the pressure to set up and fake the nonexistent crimes.
However, in the first case, no such explicit demand has been made.
This distinction might be relevant from the moral and legal points of view.