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  1. Standard member adam warlock
    Baby Gauss
    30 Sep '10 18:33
    After the recent Honduras's de facto coup we have another Latin America coup, so far as an attempt.
    After the very recent bloody past of this region of the globe let us just hope that this isn't a return to old habits.

    http://www.news24.com/World/News/Police-miltary-mutiny-in-Ecuador-20100930
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/10/01/3026540.htm?section=justin
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jrnvjhcqgCKRGkE7xwszbiQS-mqA?docId=CNG.eca89f5bc88800f85f46c6df5cbe0017.61
  2. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    30 Sep '10 19:51
    Originally posted by adam warlock
    After the recent Honduras's de facto coup we have another Latin America coup, so far as an attempt.
    After the very recent bloody past of this region of the globe let us just hope that this isn't a return to old habits.

    http://www.news24.com/World/News/Police-miltary-mutiny-in-Ecuador-20100930
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/10/01/3026540.ht ...[text shortened]... s/afp/article/ALeqM5jrnvjhcqgCKRGkE7xwszbiQS-mqA?docId=CNG.eca89f5bc88800f85f46c6df5cbe0017.61
    without trivializing your question, is it possible that the coup is a de facto form of power take over, that we in long established democracy's handle through the ballot box?
  3. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    30 Sep '10 19:58
    Originally posted by kmax87
    without trivializing your question, is it possible that the coup is a de facto form of power take over, that we in long established democracy's handle through the ballot box?
    Our police, National Guard and FBI prevent that sort of thing.
  4. Subscriber kmax87
    You've got Kevin
    30 Sep '10 20:14
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Our police, National Guard and FBI prevent that sort of thing.
    because they swear to uphold the law and are made accountable when not. officers in these organisations are well aware of their obligations. plus they are informed and keep each other informed by great telecommunications. plus the reasons that they join are usually not just the money or learning a skill, but are also heart felt emotionalism, proud as punch to be of service. And I dont knock that because therein lies the strength of the American system. While they may take sides duing elections, there is a deeper connection to their constitution that while we may groan, certainly does provide them with a bullwark against flagrant abuses of power. is that connection still there? i hope so

    now on the other hand name a south american country with coup problems, that ever had a shared response for the dissemination of power. I'm talking cliches but I never saw a documentary where everone pulled together and were singing of the same page
  5. Standard member adam warlock
    Baby Gauss
    01 Oct '10 08:07
    Originally posted by kmax87
    without trivializing your question, is it possible that the coup is a de facto form of power take over, that we in long established democracy's handle through the ballot box?
    My very honest answer is that it depends on the specific conditions of the country in question, on the agenda of the coup planners and on the popular support of the coup.

    Taking all of this factors into Ecuador's current situation it is pretty clear that this coup wasn't legitimate.
    To give you an example of a sort of a coup attempt that I think that was legitimate just think about what happened in Argentina during its economic crisis.

    http://links.org.au/node/1919
  6. Standard member Palynka
    Upward Spiral
    01 Oct '10 09:21
    I thought you were a revolutionary.
  7. 01 Oct '10 12:52 / 4 edits
    Originally posted by adam warlock
    After the recent Honduras's de facto coup we have another Latin America coup, so far as an attempt.
    After the very recent bloody past of this region of the globe let us just hope that this isn't a return to old habits.

    http://www.news24.com/World/News/Police-miltary-mutiny-in-Ecuador-20100930
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/10/01/3026540.ht ...[text shortened]... s/afp/article/ALeqM5jrnvjhcqgCKRGkE7xwszbiQS-mqA?docId=CNG.eca89f5bc88800f85f46c6df5cbe0017.61
    I predict that they only have two more bloody coups to go before realizing their utopia!!

    In the interim, all I can say is, keep on a kill'in!!

    Speaking of which, have their been any in Europe yet?
  8. Standard member adam warlock
    Baby Gauss
    01 Oct '10 14:18
    Originally posted by Palynka
    I thought you were a revolutionary.
    Are you being:

    a) ironic
    b) sardonic
    c) funny
    d) honest
    e) totally random

  9. 01 Oct '10 15:46
    if any country in s. america needs a change of government it's colombia not ecuador.
  10. Standard member Palynka
    Upward Spiral
    01 Oct '10 16:17
    Originally posted by adam warlock
    Are you being:

    a) ironic
    b) sardonic
    c) funny
    d) honest
    e) totally random

    A bit of everything.

    I think it's early to judge. What I can say is that I found it strange there were several pictures of bullet ridden police stations. I wonder who was attacking who. But I'm dependent on biased sites or partial media so I'm not judging anyone at this point. I do have the opinion that the majority is behind this government, though.
  11. 01 Oct '10 16:46
    Originally posted by adam warlock
    After the recent Honduras's de facto coup we have another Latin America coup, so far as an attempt.
    After the very recent bloody past of this region of the globe let us just hope that this isn't a return to old habits.

    http://www.news24.com/World/News/Police-miltary-mutiny-in-Ecuador-20100930
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/10/01/3026540.ht ...[text shortened]... s/afp/article/ALeqM5jrnvjhcqgCKRGkE7xwszbiQS-mqA?docId=CNG.eca89f5bc88800f85f46c6df5cbe0017.61
    I don't think you can compare the honduran incident with the recent situation in ecuador.
  12. 01 Oct '10 16:47
    Originally posted by trev33
    if any country in s. america needs a change of government it's colombia not ecuador.
    why is that?
  13. 01 Oct '10 18:17
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    why is that?
    let me guess: dope costs too much and if colombia were to legalize it prices would go down worldwide.
  14. 01 Oct '10 18:22
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    let me guess: dope costs too much and if colombia were to legalize it prices would go down worldwide.
    tell me, have you been using wikipedia again?
  15. 01 Oct '10 20:29
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    tell me, have you been using wikipedia again?
    count the cut-and-pastes in my post, please.