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Originally posted by sword4damocles
Believe in evolution?

That's like saying 'believe in God?'

Evolution IS a belief system for if it were not the question of 'belief' would not come into the arena.

As many as can debate their believe in evolution, is as many prefessing their belief in God.

"ABSENCE OF PROOF IS NOT PROOF OF ABSENCE" --William Cowper
Evolution isn't something you believe in anymore than you believe in Gravity. They are scientific theories that correspond to the scientific evidence.

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
Evolution isn't something you believe in anymore than you believe in Gravity. They are scientific theories that correspond to the scientific evidence.
Then WHY does anyone who poses the question say "do you BELIEVE"?

University professors and all others which I've EVER spoken with concerning evolution espresses as follows - "Of course I BELIEVE in evolution".

All educated people admit that evolution is not proved in its entirety.

No truely educated person could express their opinion regarding evolution in terms other than "BELIEF". It is this belief which "fills in the missing links (pardon the pun).

Evolution IS therefore, even with all of its scientific evidence, a BELIEF system.

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Originally posted by sword4damocles
Then WHY does anyone who poses the question say "do you BELIEVE"?

University professors and all others which I've EVER spoken with concerning evolution espresses as follows - "Of course I BELIEVE in evolution".

All educated people admit that evolution is not proved in its entirety.

No truely educated person could express their opinion regardi ...[text shortened]...

Evolution IS therefore, even with all of its scientific evidence, a BELIEF system.
Hope you believe in Gravity or else you might just float away.

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
Hope you believe in Gravity or else you might just float away.
There is no boubt to gravity and no 'missing links', so to speak.

Until something is proven in it's entirety all anyone can say is that they believe in it.

What they are really professing is their hope or believe that sometime in the future, there will be complete proof.

Until then belief shall have to do...silly boy.

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Just curious, has anyone here actually seen or read anything that actually proves the evolution theory to be correct?

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
Hope you believe in Gravity or else you might just float away.
Gravity is complete. No need to believe anything more than has already been discovered and proved...silly boy.

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Originally posted by Esoteric
Just curious, has anyone here actually seen or read anything that actually proves the evolution theory to be correct?
"The theory of Evolution" (official title) has not yet reached the stage of "proof".

All professors will tell you that it is taught as a theory.

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Originally posted by sword4damocles
Gravity is complete. No need to believe anything more than has already been discovered and proved...silly boy.
OK then, you'll have no problem telling me what causes gravity and how.

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Originally posted by sword4damocles
"The theory of Evolution" (official title) has not yet reached the stage of "proof".

All professors will tell you that it is taught as a theory.
You do know what a scientific theory is don't you?

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
You do know what a scientific theory is don't you?
The official title of the study of evolution is "The Theory of Evolution"...period.

I once 'believed' you to be educated, now I 'know' that I'm wrong.

Sausage Boy! 🙄

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
You do know what a scientific theory is don't you?
Theory has a number of distinct meanings in different fields of knowledge, depending on the context and their methodologies. In common usage, people use the word "theory" to signify "conjecture", "speculation", or "opinion." In this sense, "theories" are opposed to "facts" — parts of the world, or claims about the world, that are real or true regardless of what people think. -- Wikipedia

Pay special attention to the last sentence, sausage boy.

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Originally posted by sword4damocles
Theory has a number of distinct meanings in different fields of knowledge, depending on the context and their methodologies. In common usage, people use the word "theory" to signify "conjecture", "speculation", or "opinion." In this sense, "theories" are opposed to "facts" — parts of the world, or claims about the world, that are real or true regardle ...[text shortened]... le think. -- Wikipedia

Pay special attention to the last sentence, sausage boy.
Did you stop reading right there?

The very next paragraph is:

"In science, a theory is a proposed description, explanation, or model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise falsified through empirical observation. It follows from this that for scientists "theory" and "fact" do not necessarily stand in opposition. For example, it is a fact that an apple dropped on earth has been observed to fall towards the center of the planet, and the theory which explains why the apple behaves so is the current theory of gravitation."

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
Did you stop reading right there?

The very next paragraph is:

"In science, a theory is a proposed description, explanation, or model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise falsified through empiri ...[text shortened]... the theory which explains why the apple behaves so is the current theory of gravitation."
That's cute...but STILL no mention or example of evolution.

Wikipedia did mention gravity, which is NOT desputed. I bet you were hoping that they would have included evolution there to, eh?

So now we're discussing 'scientific theory' and not answering the original thread's question of 'do you BELIEVE in evolution'?

"An intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." -- Dwight D Eisenhower

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Originally posted by sword4damocles
That's cute...but STILL no mention or example of evolution.

Wikipedia did mention gravity, which is NOT desputed. I bet you were hoping that they would have included evolution there to, eh?

So now we're discussing 'scientific theory' and not answering the original thread's question of 'do you BELIEVE in evolution'?

"An intellectual is a m ...[text shortened]... ho takes more words than necessary to tell more than he knows." -- Dwight D Eisenhower
http://wilstar.com/theories.htm

EDIT: Or perhaps you'd prefer a Talk Origins link?

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html

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Originally posted by XanthosNZ
http://wilstar.com/theories.htm
Xanth - do YOU believe in evolution?

This is the question...do YOU believe in evolution?

Just answer it!