Fantasies

Originally posted by dottewell
Most people who say: "I could murder him!" are not entertaining thoughts of murder.

And most people who say: "I fantasise about rape!" are not entertaining thoughts of rape. That's the whole point of my argument.

Edit: Yea, I know. I got back very soon. 🙂

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Jesus is with you on that one.

And Aristotle and various other ancient Greeks.

That's usually a good sign.

Originally posted by dottewell
And Aristotle and various other ancient Greeks.

That's usually a good sign.

At one time everyone thought the world was flat. I wouldn't venture so far as to say I'm a new brilliant mind, but your argument fails on the possibility.

Originally posted by stocken
At one time everyone thought the world was flat. I wouldn't venture so far as to say I'm a new brilliant mind, but your argument fails on the possibility.

It wasn't an argument.

Originally posted by dottewell
It wasn't an argument.

Because it failed?

Originally posted by stocken
Because it failed?

Now you're just being silly.

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Eugh, it's like walking through a sewer here....

Stocken, your topic reminds me of Peter Sotos (article: http://www.rosenoire.org/essays/sotos.php). Hands up if you fancy reading him...

I'm afraid my inferior intellect comes into play again. I'm gonna have to read that like ten times before I fully understand it. 🙂

I can say right now that I've never heard of Peter Sotos, but that as far as I've read in the linked page he seems interesting. I don't think, initially, that I would mind being one who raises the hand no matter what everyone else thinks around here. But, of course, I'd have to actually read it before saying I fancy his writing.

Originally posted by dottewell
Now you're just being silly.

Ok?

Originally posted by stocken
I'm afraid my inferior intellect comes into play again. I'm gonna have to read that like ten times before I fully understand it. 🙂

There's one at wikipedia too.

Hmm....what would a paedopedia be...

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Eugh, it's like walking through a sewer here....

Stocken, your topic reminds me of Peter Sotos (article: http://www.rosenoire.org/essays/sotos.php). Hands up if you fancy reading him...

I think it should probably be quite advisable to read him.

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
There's one at wikipedia too.

Hmm....what would a paedopedia be...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Sotos

"Despite his early legal troubles, and the seemingly fatal stigma of being (falsely) labeled a pedophile, Sotos continues to garner support for his ideas and literary output."

A man to my heart. 🙂

One should never be afraid to speak the mind no matter how distorted the image of you can get when viewed from another man's eyes. That's what I always say.

"It is not that I fail to come across. It's that others fail to see me, when I speak my mind clearly and I am still misunderstood.", Stocken - RHP 2006 😀

Kudos to Sotos.

Edit: Uhm... 😕 On second thought, that [the self-quote] was kindof martyrian of me, wasn't it? Almost silly.

Originally posted by stocken
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Sotos

"Despite his early legal troubles, and the seemingly fatal stigma of being (falsely) labeled a pedophile, Sotos continues to garner support for his ideas and literary output."

A man to my heart. 🙂

One should never be afraid to speak the mind no matter how distorted the image of you can get when viewed from ...[text shortened]... my mind clearly and I am still misunderstood.", Stocken - RHP 2006 😀

Kudos to Sotos.

Jesus Christ.

No. Some things should be left unsaid.
Trust me.

Originally posted by stocken
It's not something that is logically explainable. In some cases it really is a domination thing, the need to own. And it can have it's roots in insecurity. Of course. The point is that those emotions surface from time to time, and with them come the thoughts.

If it's a problem as in the person having a hard time restraining him/herself, it's important to ...[text shortened]... o a real psychologist about it either.

Like Arnold put it: "I'll be back" 🙂

I'm certainly not saying you are a latent rapist. I think that is unlikely.

However, I would say that it is at least worth exploring if you have a self-image issue (most people do but never get the chance to recognize it). If you do and you manage to address is, you won't regret it!

Originally posted by lausey
Suggest you no longer have child fantasies as well.

Otherwise a lot of people here would not want their kids anywhere near you. 😛

Suggest you no longer have child fantasies as well.

Haven't in a while. It's not that they're children; it's only an attraction to adolescents who have experienced sexual desire, and it's not BECAUSE they are children. It's in spite of it. It's sexy if a girl looks at you like she wants you to want her, and girls that young sometimes are going through puberty and do that. Are you people completely unable to connect to Humbert Humbert in Lolita? Clearly many people are able to since the book is considered a classic. I knew a girl in college who identified with Lolita because she was a sexual teenager and didn't have regrets.

I'm not interested in going on about this. I have never touched a girl under 18 in my life, except once when I was 18 I dated a 16 year old (no sex). I don't keep pedophiliac porn or look for it. Freak out if you want; I don't care. I am not too worried if I'll never be able to get near anyone's children from this site. I could care less.

Originally posted by Wheely
I would agree that it is always better to admit and be able to discuss these things. Getting upset and pretending things don't exist never helps.

However, thoughts that pop into your head are one thing but using violence for arousal at will does seem, to me, as if there is an issue of some kind. I'm not saying that someone is a loony or anything but am s ...[text shortened]... ing.

I could be wrong of course as I find it hard to identify with those kind of fantasies.

Do you know how many girls get turned on by rough sex? I'm into it because girls get off on it so much. Girls have trained me to like it.