Originally posted by AThousandYoungMatey!
Do you know how many girls get turned on by rough sex? I'm into it because girls get off on it so much.
Rough sex is one thing and I agree that many women do respond to this kind of treatment (even though they might deny it). I've met many of them. However I've never met any who get off on being grabbed by a complete stranger and then forced, violently, into sex.
It is a very different thing.
Originally posted by WheelyThey fantasize about it. Fantasies aren't reality.
Matey!
Rough sex is one thing and I agree that many women do respond to this kind of treatment (even though they might deny it). I've met many of them. However I've never met any who get off on being grabbed by a complete stranger and then forced, violently, into sex.
It is a very different thing.
With respect to frequency of attraction to children among men, it's 1/5 to 1/3 of all men. One in four male RHPers agrees with me even if he won't admit it.
The extent to which pedophilia occurs is not known with any certainty. Some studies have concluded that at least a quarter of all adult men may have some feelings of sexual arousal in connection with children.[22] A study by Hall et al. of Kent State University, for example, found that 32.5% of their sample — consisting of eighty adult males — exhibited sexual arousal to heterosexual pedophilic stimuli that equaled or exceeded their arousal to the adult stimuli. Further studies indicate that even men erotically fixated on adult females are generally prone to react sexually when exposed to nude female children.[23]
In 1989 Briere and Runtz conducted a study on 193 male undergraduate students concerning pedophilia. Of the sample, 21% acknowledged sexual attraction to some small children; 9% reported sexual fantasies involving children; 5% admitted masturbating to these fantasies; and 7% conceded some probability of actually having sex with a child if they could avoid detection and punishment.[24]
Feierman (1990) predicted that 7-10% of men are sexually attracted to prepubescent boys.[9]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia#Extent_of_occurrence
Originally posted by WheelyBut there are women fantasising about such things. From one of our links (I'm too tired to post it again), the one about sexual fantasies, you can read that there are women who fantasise about being raped (really raped). But not a single woman has stated that they would actually want to be raped for real.
However I've never met any who get off on being grabbed by a complete stranger and then forced, violently, into sex.
The good thing about fantasy is that, unlike the real world, you are in control. It can end whenever you like. So fantasising about being controlled (which is another fantasy I myself fancy, actually) can be quite pleasurable since all the reasons why and how is controlled by you in a way that makes it safe and disconnected from the real world.
This I find very hard to believe that anyone here would have a problem with. But it's an excellent example to show my point. It's not the fantasy in itself. It's how you relate to it. How "real" it is for you.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungOne of my ex girlfriends used to fantasize about a complete stranger, just barging into the changing room in a clothes store where she was trying on clothes and having sex with her. There was no violence in her fantasy and in her fantasy she could say no. She could stop the fantasy too if the mood took her. This is a fairly common kind of female fantasy and could be described as a rape fantasy but I'm guessing that this isn't the kind of thing the guys here are talking about.
They fantasize about it. Fantasies aren't reality.
With respect to frequency of attraction to children among men, it's 1/5 to 1/3 of all men. One in four male RHPers agrees with me even if he won't admit it.
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To my mind this kind of fantasy is a reflection of something less troubling than if the fantasy is reversed and the guy in the changing room is forcing himself on the women who is no longer in charge and, even in a fantasy kind of way, can't say no.
I admit, in neither case does anyone get hurt but what is it about dominating a non-consenting women that is arousing?
Originally posted by stockenSome women fantasize about being killed and eaten. Some of them even act out this fantasy. However, I'm not sure I'd want to spend too much time with one that got off on that idea!
But there are women fantasising about such things. From one of our links (I'm too tired to post it again), the one about sexual fantasies, you can read that there are women who fantasise about being raped (really raped). But not a single woman has stated that they would actually want to be raped for real.
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Ok, I'm willing to believe that someone can fantasize about such things with no intention of carrying them out and that perhaps, for that person, it's not too much of a problem. To me, though, the acts described are so abhorrent that I struggle with the the concept of getting off on them.
The whole children thing is utterly beyond me though. I have absolutely no idea how anyone can find a barely developed female even remotely attractive either physically, mentally or emotionally.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungWow, amazing figures.
The extent to which pedophilia occurs is not known with any certainty. Some studies have concluded that at least a quarter of all adult men may have some feelings of sexual arousal in connection with children.[22] A study by Hall et al. of Kent State University, for example, found that 32.5% of their sample — consisting of eighty adult males — exhibit ...[text shortened]... eierman (1990) predicted that 7-10% of men are sexually attracted to prepubescent boys.[9]
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Originally posted by stockenDefine "children." Perhaps you guys have already gone over this though.
That particular fantasy is beyond me too, to be honest. But I only have a problem with a person who has such fantasies and act on them.
I find that a 16 year old (maybe 15, but most of the time that is pushing it) can be quite attractive. In contrast, I find no sexual desire for a 12 or 13 year old. To me there is a big difference. By standards of the law the 16 year old is still considered a child and I would get in big trouble if I were to ever act out any desires, consentual or not.
Would I be considered to have pedophilia like thoughts if I think a 16 year old is hot? By the way, I'm 24, not quite adult yet myself 🙂
Originally posted by DraxusFair point, I don't think we have. I'd agree that 16 is usually an absolute minimum for physical attraction though let's face it at that age you're talking "sack of potatoes" generally speaking anyway.
Define "children." Perhaps you guys have already gone over this though.
I find that a 16 year old (maybe 15, but most of the time that is pushing it) can be quite attractive. In contrast, I find no sexual desire for a 12 or 13 year old. To me there is a big difference. By standards of the law the 16 year old is still considered a child and I would get ...[text shortened]... thoughts if I think a 16 year old is hot? By the way, I'm 24, not quite adult yet myself 🙂
Personally I'd rather have a women who is bright, feisty, knows what she wants and is attractive too. They, like us, need a few more years to reach that stage.
Originally posted by DraxusSixteen is perfectly legal, though dull I should imagine, in the UK.
Define "children." Perhaps you guys have already gone over this though.
I find that a 16 year old (maybe 15, but most of the time that is pushing it) can be quite attractive. In contrast, I find no sexual desire for a 12 or 13 year old. To me there is a big difference. By standards of the law the 16 year old is still considered a child and I would get ...[text shortened]... thoughts if I think a 16 year old is hot? By the way, I'm 24, not quite adult yet myself 🙂
I didn't think they were dull when I was sixteen so perhaps I'm being unfair.
Originally posted by 7ate9Actually, studies show that women reach their sexual peak past thirty. Frankly I can believe that too. Older women are generally far more interesting as they have more experience, are less inhibited and can usually make more interesting conversation afterwards too!
i've slept with a lot of women during my life. get drunk, go out, sleep with them, catch you up.
i think someone who is 16-21 is more highly sexually aroused than when they get older. i don't know why, it's just the way it is. i don't think it's right for a guy who is 24 to be sleeping with a 16-year old, however later in life it could become more right.
...[text shortened]... a loving relationship which grows is far better than any hot bonding with a downhill slide.
That's not to say that no younger ladies have these qualities but it's rarer. Same thing with guys I imagine.